1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:15,382 [ MUSIC ] 2 00:00:26,493 --> 00:00:27,193 >> HELLO, EVERYONE. 3 00:00:27,193 --> 00:00:28,795 I'M MICHELLE FEREBEE, 4 00:00:28,795 --> 00:00:30,163 DEPUTY DIRECTOR 5 00:00:30,163 --> 00:00:31,698 OF NASA LANGLEY'S OFFICE 6 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:33,066 OF STRATEGIC ANALYSIS, 7 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:33,867 COMMUNICATIONS, 8 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,335 AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. 9 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:36,936 TO EVERYONE WATCHING, 10 00:00:36,936 --> 00:00:37,837 THANK YOU. 11 00:00:37,837 --> 00:00:39,172 I'M EXCITED TO BRING YOU 12 00:00:39,172 --> 00:00:40,407 WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE 13 00:00:40,407 --> 00:00:42,208 A FASCINATING DISCUSSION. 14 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:44,144 WE ARE EXPLORING THE POWER 15 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:45,545 OF AFRICAN AMERICAN 16 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:47,380 LEADERS IN NASA. 17 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:49,015 WE'VE ASSEMBLED AN 18 00:00:49,015 --> 00:00:51,117 ESTEEMED PANEL OF EXPERTS, 19 00:00:51,117 --> 00:00:53,086 PROFESSIONALS WHO TRULY EMBODY 20 00:00:53,086 --> 00:00:55,121 THE IDEA OF NASA LEADERSHIP. 21 00:00:55,121 --> 00:00:56,689 THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, 22 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:57,724 NASA'S SUCCESS IS 23 00:00:57,724 --> 00:00:58,892 DRIVEN BY PEOPLE OF 24 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:00,427 DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS. 25 00:01:00,427 --> 00:01:02,295 THE WORLD HAS COME TO KNOW 26 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:03,897 LANGLEY'S HIDDEN FIGURES, 27 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:05,165 BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER 28 00:01:05,165 --> 00:01:07,400 INSPIRING STORIES TO TELL. 29 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,468 AT LANGLEY, 30 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:09,335 IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTORS 31 00:01:09,335 --> 00:01:11,104 SUCH AS THOMAS BYRDSONG, 32 00:01:11,104 --> 00:01:12,505 A BLACK ENGINEER 33 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:14,941 WHO CAME TO WORK IN 1953 34 00:01:14,941 --> 00:01:16,443 FOR THE NATIONAL ADVISORY 35 00:01:16,443 --> 00:01:17,977 COMMITTEE ON AERONAUTICS, 36 00:01:17,977 --> 00:01:19,312 OUR PREDECESSOR, 37 00:01:19,312 --> 00:01:20,680 NASA'S PREDECESSOR. 38 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,848 HE WENT ON TO DO 39 00:01:21,848 --> 00:01:22,916 ESSENTIAL WIND TUNNEL WORK 40 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,551 FOR THE APOLLO PROGRAM. 41 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:26,019 ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS 42 00:01:26,019 --> 00:01:28,188 MR. STANLEY WOODARD, AN ENGINEER 43 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:29,589 AND PROLIFIC INVENTOR 44 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:31,291 WHO FILED MORE THAN 22 45 00:01:31,291 --> 00:01:33,460 U.S. AND INTERNATIONAL PATENTS 46 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:34,727 BEFORE PASSING AWAY 47 00:01:34,727 --> 00:01:37,897 IN 2011 AT THE AGE OF 51. 48 00:01:37,897 --> 00:01:39,899 IN BETWEEN, THERE HAVE 49 00:01:39,899 --> 00:01:41,267 BEEN SO MANY OTHERS. 50 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:42,702 I KNOW THE SAME IS TRUE 51 00:01:42,702 --> 00:01:43,937 ACROSS THE AGENCY. 52 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:45,472 BLACK HISTORY MONTH 53 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:47,006 IS THE PERFECT TIME 54 00:01:47,006 --> 00:01:48,608 TO REFLECT ON WHAT'S BEEN 55 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:50,009 ACCOMPLISHED BY SO MANY 56 00:01:50,009 --> 00:01:52,278 AND TO SEE WHAT WE CAN LEARN 57 00:01:52,278 --> 00:01:54,047 FROM OUR TRIUMPHS AND STRUGGLES. 58 00:01:54,047 --> 00:01:55,682 WE'RE HONORED TO BE 59 00:01:55,682 --> 00:01:56,716 STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS 60 00:01:56,716 --> 00:01:58,618 OF SOME TRUE GIANTS. 61 00:01:58,618 --> 00:02:00,186 WHETHER THEY ARE PIONEERS 62 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:01,888 CELEBRATED AROUND THE GLOBE, 63 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:03,356 OR EVERYDAY HEROES 64 00:02:03,356 --> 00:02:04,524 WHO HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE 65 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:06,292 FOR OUR AGENCY AND OUR NATION. 66 00:02:06,292 --> 00:02:08,828 WE HAVE SUCH A PROUD HERITAGE 67 00:02:08,828 --> 00:02:10,396 TO DRAW ON, AND WE WILL 68 00:02:10,396 --> 00:02:11,998 CONTINUE THAT HERITAGE 69 00:02:11,998 --> 00:02:13,233 EVERY DAY. 70 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:14,267 SO, I INVITE YOU TO 71 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:16,736 LISTEN AND REFLECT WITH US 72 00:02:16,736 --> 00:02:19,572 AS WE DISCUSS OUR AGENCY'S PAST, 73 00:02:19,572 --> 00:02:21,174 PRESENT, AND FUTURE 74 00:02:21,174 --> 00:02:22,342 AS SHAPED BY 75 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:24,143 AFRICAN AMERICAN LEADERS. 76 00:02:24,143 --> 00:02:25,612 NOW, I'LL TURN YOU OVER 77 00:02:25,612 --> 00:02:27,280 TO MR. GLENN DELGADO, 78 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,148 NASA'S ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR 79 00:02:29,148 --> 00:02:31,251 FOR SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAMS. 80 00:02:31,251 --> 00:02:32,685 GLENN? 81 00:02:32,685 --> 00:02:33,486 >> THANK YOU, MICHELLE, 82 00:02:33,486 --> 00:02:34,320 FOR THOSE KIND WORDS. 83 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,755 THOSE ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED, 84 00:02:35,755 --> 00:02:36,689 AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE 85 00:02:36,689 --> 00:02:37,557 TO WELCOME OUR AUDIENCE 86 00:02:37,557 --> 00:02:38,558 TO TODAY'S EVENT. 87 00:02:38,558 --> 00:02:39,559 I THINK YOU'LL FIND 88 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:40,994 THIS PANEL VERY STIMULATING 89 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:41,928 AND GIVING YOU A LOT OF 90 00:02:41,928 --> 00:02:43,096 FOOD FOR THOUGHT ABOUT 91 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:44,597 LEADERSHIP AT NASA. 92 00:02:44,597 --> 00:02:46,933 UM, IT IS A VERY DIVERSE PANEL, 93 00:02:46,933 --> 00:02:48,067 AND I'D LIKE TO 94 00:02:48,067 --> 00:02:49,202 INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU. 95 00:02:49,202 --> 00:02:50,403 FIRST, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE 96 00:02:50,403 --> 00:02:51,738 MISS VANESSA WYCHE. 97 00:02:51,738 --> 00:02:53,473 SHE IS A DEPUTY CENTER DIRECTOR 98 00:02:53,473 --> 00:02:55,008 AT JOHNSON SPACE CENTER. 99 00:02:55,008 --> 00:02:56,676 THEN A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, 100 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:58,011 DR. WOODROW WHITLOW, 101 00:02:58,011 --> 00:02:59,445 WHO IS A FORMER CENTER DIRECTOR 102 00:02:59,445 --> 00:03:00,914 AT GLENN RESEARCH CENTER, 103 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:02,115 AS WELL AS A FORMER 104 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:03,816 ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR 105 00:03:03,816 --> 00:03:04,651 FOR MISSION SUPPORT 106 00:03:04,651 --> 00:03:05,852 AT HEADQUARTERS. 107 00:03:05,852 --> 00:03:06,853 UH, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, 108 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,221 BRENDA MANUEL, UH, 109 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:09,756 WHO IS THE FORMER AA OF, UH, 110 00:03:09,756 --> 00:03:12,058 DIVERSITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AT NASA HEADQUARTERS. 111 00:03:12,058 --> 00:03:13,426 UM, AND HAL WALKER JR., 112 00:03:13,426 --> 00:03:14,327 WHO IS A RETIRED 113 00:03:14,327 --> 00:03:16,195 APOLLO LASER SCIENTIST 114 00:03:16,195 --> 00:03:17,864 WHO DID FASCINATING WORK, 115 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:18,665 AND I'M SURE HE'LL TALK TO YOU 116 00:03:18,665 --> 00:03:19,966 ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 117 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:21,801 AND LAST IS MR. CLAYTON TURNER, 118 00:03:21,801 --> 00:03:22,635 WHO IS THE CURRENT 119 00:03:22,635 --> 00:03:23,570 CENTER DIRECTOR AT 120 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:25,605 LANGLEY RESEARCH CENTER. 121 00:03:25,605 --> 00:03:26,973 SO, THE FIRST THING THAT 122 00:03:26,973 --> 00:03:28,341 I REALLY WANT TO DO IS 123 00:03:28,341 --> 00:03:30,176 ASK EACH OF YOU A QUESTION 124 00:03:30,176 --> 00:03:32,612 AND, IN THREE WORDS OR LESS, 125 00:03:32,612 --> 00:03:34,113 I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO VIEW. 126 00:03:34,113 --> 00:03:35,448 "WHAT DOES LEADERSHIP 127 00:03:35,448 --> 00:03:36,416 MEAN TO YOU?" 128 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:38,184 SO WITH THAT, 129 00:03:38,184 --> 00:03:39,953 I'LL START OFF WITH VANESSA. 130 00:03:39,953 --> 00:03:41,821 UM, WHAT DOES LEADERSHIP 131 00:03:41,821 --> 00:03:43,256 MEAN TO YOU, VANESSA? 132 00:03:43,256 --> 00:03:45,725 >> UH, GOOD MORNING, FIRST, 133 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,026 AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME 134 00:03:47,026 --> 00:03:48,194 TO BE ON THE PANEL. 135 00:03:48,194 --> 00:03:50,396 BUT IN THREE WORDS, 136 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:51,497 I GUESS I WOULD SAY, 137 00:03:51,497 --> 00:03:54,067 UM, "MOTIVATE TO ACHIEVE." 138 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,135 >> THANK YOU, WELL-STATED. 139 00:03:56,135 --> 00:03:57,136 UH, WOODROW, 140 00:03:57,136 --> 00:03:59,505 SAME QUESTION TO YOU. 141 00:03:59,505 --> 00:04:00,473 >> UH, "INSPIRING 142 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:02,141 THE WORKFORCE." 143 00:04:02,141 --> 00:04:04,344 >> AND THAT YOU DID DO. 144 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:06,112 UM, BRENDA? 145 00:04:06,112 --> 00:04:06,813 >> I WOULD SAY 146 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:09,315 "VISION AND ACCOUNTABILITY." 147 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:10,950 >> HAL WALKER? 148 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:12,852 >> UH, "TRUST AND COMMITMENT." 149 00:04:12,852 --> 00:04:14,287 >> WELL SAID, 150 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:15,555 AND CLAYTON, IF YOU COULD 151 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:16,689 WRAP THAT UP FOR US? 152 00:04:16,689 --> 00:04:17,390 >> YES, I WOULD SAY 153 00:04:17,390 --> 00:04:19,258 "SERVANT TO ENABLE." 154 00:04:19,258 --> 00:04:20,994 >> SERVANT TO ENABLE. 155 00:04:20,994 --> 00:04:22,028 OKAY, THOSE ARE ALL VERY 156 00:04:22,028 --> 00:04:23,796 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, 157 00:04:23,796 --> 00:04:24,564 AND THAT'S THE REASON 158 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:25,999 EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE A PANEL, 159 00:04:25,999 --> 00:04:26,899 SO WE CAN GET A DIVERSITY 160 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:29,068 OF IDEAS AND OPINIONS HERE. 161 00:04:29,068 --> 00:04:31,004 SO, I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU GUYS, 162 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:32,839 UM, AND JUST GET A FEEL 163 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,240 FOR OUR AUDIENCE 164 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,675 OF HOW BLACK LEADERSHIP 165 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:36,976 IS DOING AT NASA. 166 00:04:36,976 --> 00:04:38,444 SO, WELL, THE FIRST THING 167 00:04:38,444 --> 00:04:39,445 I REALLY WANT TO DO 168 00:04:39,445 --> 00:04:41,414 IS I'LL ASK CLAYTON 169 00:04:41,414 --> 00:04:43,116 AND VANESSA THIS QUESTION. 170 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:44,717 "AS A SUCCESSFUL LEADER, 171 00:04:44,717 --> 00:04:45,852 WHAT DO YOU WISH YOU HAD KNOWN 172 00:04:45,852 --> 00:04:46,786 BEFORE TAKING YOUR 173 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:48,655 FIRST MANAGEMENT ROLE?" 174 00:04:48,655 --> 00:04:50,757 >> SO-SO MY ANSWER WOULD BE 175 00:04:50,757 --> 00:04:52,592 THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED 176 00:04:52,592 --> 00:04:54,027 TO HAVE KNOWN THE, UH, 177 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:56,029 FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE. 178 00:04:56,029 --> 00:04:57,630 UH, I FOCUS ON THAT 179 00:04:57,630 --> 00:04:59,432 TECHNICAL JOB AND, UH, 180 00:04:59,432 --> 00:05:00,833 DELIVERING OF THE-- 181 00:05:00,833 --> 00:05:03,002 OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. 182 00:05:03,002 --> 00:05:04,404 UH, BUT YOU REQUIRE 183 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:05,938 MORE FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE 184 00:05:05,938 --> 00:05:06,939 TO ENABLE THEM TO 185 00:05:06,939 --> 00:05:08,441 DO EXACTLY THAT. 186 00:05:08,441 --> 00:05:10,843 >> WELL SAID. 187 00:05:10,843 --> 00:05:11,978 UM, VANESSA? 188 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:12,779 >> SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, 189 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:14,013 I BEGAN, UH, MY CAREER 190 00:05:14,013 --> 00:05:16,215 AS A PROJECT ENGINEER. 191 00:05:16,215 --> 00:05:18,184 AND, UH, LIKE CLAYTON, 192 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:19,786 FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, 193 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:21,788 DEVELOPING THE BEST PRODUCT. 194 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:22,689 AND THEN WHEN 195 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:23,823 I BECAME A LEADER, 196 00:05:23,823 --> 00:05:25,925 UM, LEARNING AND UNDERSTANDING 197 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:27,627 SITUATIONAL LEADERSHIP 198 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:29,629 WAS, UH, WAS KEY FOR ME. 199 00:05:29,629 --> 00:05:31,264 UH, FINDING OUT THAT. 200 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:32,465 YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY 201 00:05:32,465 --> 00:05:34,200 COMES TO WORK WITH 202 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,502 THE SAME, UH, BASELINE. 203 00:05:36,502 --> 00:05:37,904 YOU KNOW, COMING IN 204 00:05:37,904 --> 00:05:40,306 FOR MYSELF, UH, MY PARENTS 205 00:05:40,306 --> 00:05:42,542 BASICALLY WERE, UM, 206 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:44,277 DISCIPLINARIANS, AND, UM, 207 00:05:44,277 --> 00:05:46,913 AND PUSHED US TO EXCEL. 208 00:05:46,913 --> 00:05:48,915 AND SO, UH, COMING TO WORK 209 00:05:48,915 --> 00:05:50,283 AS A HARD WORKER AND-- 210 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:51,451 AND WANTING TO ALWAYS 211 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:52,652 UNDERSTAND AND DO THE BEST 212 00:05:52,652 --> 00:05:54,420 WAS JUST BY NATURE, 213 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:56,089 AND THEN FINDING MAYBE 214 00:05:56,089 --> 00:05:57,356 NOT EVERYBODY IS THE SAME. 215 00:05:57,356 --> 00:05:59,325 SO, UM, GETTING THE SKILLS 216 00:05:59,325 --> 00:06:00,693 TO BE ABLE TO MOTIVATE, 217 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:01,828 UH, OTHERS THAT MAY NOT 218 00:06:01,828 --> 00:06:02,895 NECESSARILY HAVE THAT 219 00:06:02,895 --> 00:06:05,198 SAME BASELINE IS KEY. 220 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:06,499 >> YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING 221 00:06:06,499 --> 00:06:07,700 VERY IMPORTANT, I FOUND THAT 222 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:08,768 MYSELF AS I'VE BEEN 223 00:06:08,768 --> 00:06:09,669 DOING MY JOB OVER 224 00:06:09,669 --> 00:06:11,237 THE LAST 14 YEARS HERE. 225 00:06:11,237 --> 00:06:13,406 OKAY, UM, THERE'S A VIDEO 226 00:06:13,406 --> 00:06:14,440 QUESTION THAT CAME IN, 227 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,975 SO I'M GONNA GO THAT WAY. 228 00:06:15,975 --> 00:06:17,610 UM, THIS QUESTION IS 229 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:18,678 A QUESTION FROM 230 00:06:18,678 --> 00:06:20,446 NAIA-BUTLER CRAIG. 231 00:06:20,446 --> 00:06:22,448 SHE'S AN AEROSPACE ENGINEER. 232 00:06:22,448 --> 00:06:23,516 >> AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE 233 00:06:23,516 --> 00:06:24,917 ABSOLUTELY PAVED THE PATH 234 00:06:24,917 --> 00:06:26,252 FOR YOUNG BLACK SCIENTISTS 235 00:06:26,252 --> 00:06:28,588 AND SPACE PROFESSIONALS, 236 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:29,388 HOW DOES IT FEEL 237 00:06:29,388 --> 00:06:30,356 TO SEE YOUR LEGACY 238 00:06:30,356 --> 00:06:33,426 AND IMPACT REAL-TIME? 239 00:06:33,426 --> 00:06:34,260 >> I'M GONNA DIRECT THAT 240 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:35,661 QUESTION, UH, BACK TO YOU 241 00:06:35,661 --> 00:06:36,896 AGAIN, VANESSA, UH, 242 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:37,663 'CAUSE OF YOUR 243 00:06:37,663 --> 00:06:38,664 TECHNICAL BACKGROUND. 244 00:06:38,664 --> 00:06:40,066 HAL, ALSO TO YOU. 245 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:41,200 >> WELL, UH, I WOULD SAY, 246 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,568 GLENN, UH, MYSELF, 247 00:06:42,568 --> 00:06:43,703 THAT I'VE HAD, UH, 248 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:44,837 A REALLY GOOD CAREER. 249 00:06:44,837 --> 00:06:46,339 UH, AND BEEN ABLE 250 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:47,840 TO ACHIEVE A LOT. 251 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,476 BUT, UM, LOOKING AT WHERE 252 00:06:50,476 --> 00:06:53,012 WE ARE TODAY WHERE WE HAVE 253 00:06:53,012 --> 00:06:55,648 SO MANY, UH, AFRICAN AMERICANS 254 00:06:55,648 --> 00:06:57,683 THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, 255 00:06:57,683 --> 00:06:58,785 JUST EVEN THE INCREASE 256 00:06:58,785 --> 00:06:59,919 IN THE ASTRONAUT CORPS, 257 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:00,920 FOR EXAMPLE. 258 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,388 UH, THEN JUST LOOKING 259 00:07:02,388 --> 00:07:03,422 AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 260 00:07:03,422 --> 00:07:04,390 THAT WE HAVE IN LEADERSHIP. 261 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:05,124 YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT-- 262 00:07:05,124 --> 00:07:07,126 AT CLAYTON AS CENTER DIRECTOR 263 00:07:07,126 --> 00:07:08,628 AT, UH, LANGLEY 264 00:07:08,628 --> 00:07:10,363 RESEARCH CENTER AND OTHERS 265 00:07:10,363 --> 00:07:11,798 ACROSS THE AGENCY. 266 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:13,966 UH, IT MAKES ME FEEL, UM, 267 00:07:13,966 --> 00:07:14,867 THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED 268 00:07:14,867 --> 00:07:16,002 QUITE A LOT, YOU KNOW? 269 00:07:16,002 --> 00:07:18,437 I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN, UH, 270 00:07:18,437 --> 00:07:19,472 A ROAD FOR US TO MAKE IT 271 00:07:19,472 --> 00:07:20,873 TO THIS, UH, POINT. 272 00:07:20,873 --> 00:07:23,109 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, 273 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:24,911 YOU KNOW, UH, BRENDA 274 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:26,612 AND-AND WOODROW, THE WORK, 275 00:07:26,612 --> 00:07:28,414 AND-AND OTHERS THAT 276 00:07:28,414 --> 00:07:30,116 THEY PUT IN, UH, TO MAKE IT 277 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:31,851 SO WE CAN GET TO WHERE 278 00:07:31,851 --> 00:07:33,619 WE ARE TODAY, BUT, UM, 279 00:07:33,619 --> 00:07:35,288 I'M VERY PROUD, UH, TO SAY 280 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:36,689 THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY-- 281 00:07:36,689 --> 00:07:37,924 THEY PAVED THE WAY, 282 00:07:37,924 --> 00:07:39,025 AND THEN OTHERS NOW 283 00:07:39,025 --> 00:07:40,293 ARE ABLE TO-TO STAND 284 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:41,460 ON THEIR SHOULDERS. 285 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:43,329 >> YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE 286 00:07:43,329 --> 00:07:44,497 WITH THAT, THAT'S WELL SAID. 287 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:46,232 OKAY, HAL. 288 00:07:46,232 --> 00:07:48,334 >> UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY 289 00:07:48,334 --> 00:07:50,503 TO WORK WITH, UH, RON MCNAIR 290 00:07:50,503 --> 00:07:51,871 AS HE WAS MY OFFICE MATE 291 00:07:51,871 --> 00:07:52,572 WHILE HE WAS AT 292 00:07:52,572 --> 00:07:53,940 HUGHES AIRCRAFT COMPANY. 293 00:07:53,940 --> 00:07:55,308 SO, WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK 294 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:56,742 ABOUT THE FUTURE OF AEROSPACE 295 00:07:56,742 --> 00:07:58,678 AND SPACE EXPLORATION. 296 00:07:58,678 --> 00:08:00,313 BUT I THINK THAT GOT-- 297 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,647 SOMEHOW, OUR COMMUNITY 298 00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:03,282 DOESN'T FEEL AN ATTRACTION. 299 00:08:03,282 --> 00:08:04,750 I NEVER FELT OUR COMMUNITY 300 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:05,785 HAD AN ATTRACTION 301 00:08:05,785 --> 00:08:07,220 TO THE SPACE INDUSTRY. 302 00:08:07,220 --> 00:08:08,354 I FELT VERY FORTUNATE 303 00:08:08,354 --> 00:08:09,856 GROWING UP AS A YOUNGSTER, 304 00:08:09,856 --> 00:08:11,357 UH, IN THOSE EARLY DAYS. 305 00:08:11,357 --> 00:08:12,458 I-I SAW MOVIES LIKE 306 00:08:12,458 --> 00:08:13,659 "BUCK ROGERS" AND THINGS 307 00:08:13,659 --> 00:08:14,961 LIKE THAT WHICH REALLY 308 00:08:14,961 --> 00:08:16,829 STIMULATED MY INTEREST IN SPACE. 309 00:08:16,829 --> 00:08:17,763 I DON'T THINK 310 00:08:17,763 --> 00:08:18,965 WE SAW SOME OF THIS 311 00:08:18,965 --> 00:08:20,166 IN THE LATTER YEARS, 312 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:21,467 BUT I SPENT MUCH OF MY LIFE 313 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:22,501 TRYING TO DO THINGS 314 00:08:22,501 --> 00:08:24,470 AS PART OF MY EIGHT-MAN PROGRAM, 315 00:08:24,470 --> 00:08:25,571 WHICH WAS A SCIENCE 316 00:08:25,571 --> 00:08:26,906 TECHNOLOGY ENGINEERING MODEL 317 00:08:26,906 --> 00:08:28,174 TO TRY TO IMPROVE 318 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:30,042 THE PARTICIPATION OF YOUNG BLACKS, 319 00:08:30,042 --> 00:08:31,344 MALES AND FEMALES, 320 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:33,679 IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY. 321 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:34,647 >> WELL SAID. 322 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:36,382 THAT'S, UH, VERY INTERESTING. 323 00:08:36,382 --> 00:08:37,617 IT MAKES ME GO BACK 324 00:08:37,617 --> 00:08:38,484 AND THINK OF MY DAYS OF 325 00:08:38,484 --> 00:08:39,619 WATCHING "BUCK ROGERS," 326 00:08:39,619 --> 00:08:40,419 I WAS A LITTLE YOUNGER 327 00:08:40,419 --> 00:08:41,587 THAN YOU, I THINK, THOUGH, 328 00:08:41,587 --> 00:08:42,588 WHEN WE WERE DOING THAT. 329 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:43,956 OKAY, I HAVE 330 00:08:43,956 --> 00:08:45,024 A QUESTION THAT'S LIKE, 331 00:08:45,024 --> 00:08:46,459 "WHICH LEADERSHIP SKILLS 332 00:08:46,459 --> 00:08:48,127 WERE THE MOST DIFFICULT ONES 333 00:08:48,127 --> 00:08:49,228 TO DEVELOP?" 334 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:50,363 GONNA PUT THAT TO, UH, 335 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:51,998 CLAYTON AND THEN 336 00:08:51,998 --> 00:08:53,766 ALSO TO HAL AGAIN. 337 00:08:53,766 --> 00:08:55,301 >> S-SO FOR ME, IT'S-- 338 00:08:55,301 --> 00:08:57,770 IT'S BEING ABLE TO-TO LEAD. 339 00:08:57,770 --> 00:08:59,972 UH, I'M A-AN EXTREME INTROVERT, 340 00:08:59,972 --> 00:09:01,007 SO MY COMFORT LEVEL 341 00:09:01,007 --> 00:09:02,875 IS IN MY LAB AND SLIDE 342 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:04,377 A PIZZA UNDER THE DOOR. 343 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:05,544 [ CHUCKLING ] 344 00:09:05,544 --> 00:09:06,512 UH, THAT'S-THAT'S 345 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:07,513 WHERE I WANT TO BE. 346 00:09:07,513 --> 00:09:09,048 BUT THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT, 347 00:09:09,048 --> 00:09:10,182 AND IN ONE OF MY EARLIER 348 00:09:10,182 --> 00:09:11,717 CAREERS, I ACTUALLY WENT IN 349 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:12,885 AS A RECORDING ENGINEER 350 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:13,819 WITH THE IDEA THAT I COULD 351 00:09:13,819 --> 00:09:15,121 JUST TURN DIALS AND KNOBS 352 00:09:15,121 --> 00:09:16,756 AND GET THE SIGNAL TO 353 00:09:16,756 --> 00:09:17,957 THE RECORDING DEVICE 354 00:09:17,957 --> 00:09:19,191 AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. 355 00:09:19,191 --> 00:09:20,559 BUT WHAT I DISCOVERED THERE 356 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,128 WAS THAT YOU HAD TO ENGAGE 357 00:09:22,128 --> 00:09:23,095 WITH THE HUMAN BEING, 358 00:09:23,095 --> 00:09:24,196 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT 359 00:09:24,196 --> 00:09:25,498 WAS CREATING THAT, 360 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:26,265 AND THAT'S WHAT WAS GONNA 361 00:09:26,265 --> 00:09:27,333 MAKE THE BEST PRODUCT. 362 00:09:27,333 --> 00:09:28,234 NOW, IT TOOK A WHILE 363 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:29,035 FOR THAT TO TAKE 364 00:09:29,035 --> 00:09:30,069 BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, 365 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:32,004 I AM AN EXTREME INTROVERT. 366 00:09:32,004 --> 00:09:34,373 BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE 367 00:09:34,373 --> 00:09:35,641 SUCH AN AMAZING MISSION, 368 00:09:35,641 --> 00:09:36,642 BECAUSE WE'RE COMING HERE 369 00:09:36,642 --> 00:09:38,177 TO DO WONDERFUL THINGS, 370 00:09:38,177 --> 00:09:40,546 IT MATTERS THAT PEOPLE 371 00:09:40,546 --> 00:09:41,347 ARE EXCITED ABOUT 372 00:09:41,347 --> 00:09:42,148 WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 373 00:09:42,148 --> 00:09:42,949 AND AS VANESSA SAID, 374 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:43,716 PEOPLE COME WITH 375 00:09:43,716 --> 00:09:44,583 DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, 376 00:09:44,583 --> 00:09:46,185 DIFFERENT BASELINES, 377 00:09:46,185 --> 00:09:47,553 AND SO PART OF THE-- 378 00:09:47,553 --> 00:09:48,788 TH-THE BIG PART OF LEADERSHIP 379 00:09:48,788 --> 00:09:50,890 IS SERVING THOSE FOLKS 380 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:51,857 AND CREATING THAT ENVIRONMENT 381 00:09:51,857 --> 00:09:53,225 SO THEY CAN DO AMAZING THINGS. 382 00:09:53,225 --> 00:09:53,960 SO, I WOULD SAY THAT'S 383 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,794 THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME, 384 00:09:54,794 --> 00:09:57,596 ENGAGING WITH THE PEOPLE. 385 00:09:57,596 --> 00:09:59,799 >> OKAY, SO THE BIG QUESTION IS, 386 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:00,533 WHAT KIND OF PIZZA 387 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:01,667 GOT SLID UNDER THE DOOR? 388 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:04,570 [ LAUGHING ] 389 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:05,571 >> SO, I-I-I CAN 390 00:10:05,571 --> 00:10:07,173 CERTAINLY SHARE, UH, 391 00:10:07,173 --> 00:10:08,774 IT LESS LIKELY WAS PIZZA 392 00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:09,608 AND MORE LIKELY, 393 00:10:09,608 --> 00:10:10,543 IF YOU'RE FROM LANGLEY, 394 00:10:10,543 --> 00:10:11,277 YOU KNOW IF IT WAS 395 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:12,178 WEDNES-WEDNESDAYS, 396 00:10:12,178 --> 00:10:13,079 IT WAS FRIED CHICKEN, 397 00:10:13,079 --> 00:10:13,846 IF IT WAS THURSDAYS, 398 00:10:13,846 --> 00:10:14,747 IT WAS MEAT LOAF. 399 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:16,716 SO, THAT-THAT'S THE WAY WE ROLL. 400 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:17,850 AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY 401 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:20,052 ALMOST OUR ENTIRE 103 YEARS. 402 00:10:20,052 --> 00:10:21,187 >> YEAH, THAT SOUNDS 403 00:10:21,187 --> 00:10:22,288 LIKE A GOOD-GOOD MEAL 404 00:10:22,288 --> 00:10:23,322 TO WORK ON, THERE! 405 00:10:23,322 --> 00:10:24,290 [ CHUCKLING ] 406 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:25,324 I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. 407 00:10:25,324 --> 00:10:26,392 YOU HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN. 408 00:10:26,392 --> 00:10:27,393 SO, HAL, DO YOU HAVE 409 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:28,527 AN ANSWER TO, UH, 410 00:10:28,527 --> 00:10:29,662 WHAT LEADERSHIP SKILLS 411 00:10:29,662 --> 00:10:30,596 WERE THE MOST DIFFICULT 412 00:10:30,596 --> 00:10:32,064 TO DEVELOP FOR YOU? 413 00:10:32,064 --> 00:10:33,899 >> UH, I THINK MANAGING CHANGE. 414 00:10:33,899 --> 00:10:36,202 UH, OF COURSE, I-I CAME 415 00:10:36,202 --> 00:10:37,703 OUT OF THE MILITARY 416 00:10:37,703 --> 00:10:39,071 AND WENT TO COLLEGE 417 00:10:39,071 --> 00:10:40,072 FOR A SHORT TIME, 418 00:10:40,072 --> 00:10:41,774 THEN WENT INTO THE INDUSTRY. 419 00:10:41,774 --> 00:10:43,376 AND OF COURSE, UH, 420 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:44,577 MANAGING CHANGE WAS, UH, 421 00:10:44,577 --> 00:10:45,678 WAS A REAL CHALLENGE 422 00:10:45,678 --> 00:10:47,146 FOR ME. BECAUSE, AGAIN, 423 00:10:47,146 --> 00:10:49,115 WHEN YOU HAVE WHAT I CALL 424 00:10:49,115 --> 00:10:50,683 AN INTRODUCTORY ENVIRONMENT 425 00:10:50,683 --> 00:10:51,384 WHERE YOU'RE BEING 426 00:10:51,384 --> 00:10:52,518 INTRODUCED TO NEW THINGS, 427 00:10:52,518 --> 00:10:54,353 AND YOU START TO LEARN THINGS 428 00:10:54,353 --> 00:10:55,755 AS THEY SHIFT AND CHANGE, 429 00:10:55,755 --> 00:10:57,390 I STRUGGLED WITH THAT A LOT. 430 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,525 BUT I FOUND OUT MAKING FRIENDS, 431 00:10:59,525 --> 00:11:00,659 OR AT LEAST DEVELOPING 432 00:11:00,659 --> 00:11:02,328 FRIENDSHIP WITH MY COWORKERS 433 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:03,596 ALWAYS TENDED TO GIVE ME 434 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,131 A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKUP. 435 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:07,233 SO, I-I WOULD SAY MANAGING 436 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:08,434 CHANGE IS A BIG PART OF 437 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:10,436 DEVELOPING MANAGEMENT SKILL, 438 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:11,337 AND ONE OF THE WAYS 439 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,271 THAT YOU SOLVE THAT, 440 00:11:12,271 --> 00:11:13,739 BY BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP 441 00:11:13,739 --> 00:11:14,573 WITH OTHER PEOPLE 442 00:11:14,573 --> 00:11:16,108 INVOLVED ON YOUR TEAM. 443 00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:17,943 >> OKAY, THAT'S PRETTY 444 00:11:17,943 --> 00:11:18,944 WELL-SAID AND I-- 445 00:11:18,944 --> 00:11:20,546 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 446 00:11:20,546 --> 00:11:21,947 AND I CAN FEEL THAT BECAUSE, 447 00:11:21,947 --> 00:11:23,382 UH, I'VE HAD, UH, 448 00:11:23,382 --> 00:11:24,316 A LOT OF GROWING TO DO 449 00:11:24,316 --> 00:11:25,084 BECAUSE I WAS ONE 450 00:11:25,084 --> 00:11:25,918 OF THESE YOUNG KIDS 451 00:11:25,918 --> 00:11:27,420 GOING UP AND, YOU KNOW, 452 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:28,587 GOT INTO MANAGEMENT EARLY, 453 00:11:28,587 --> 00:11:29,789 AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO 454 00:11:29,789 --> 00:11:30,790 UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE 455 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:31,690 CONCEPTS THAT YOU GUYS 456 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:32,625 ARE TALKING ABOUT, 457 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:33,626 WHICH IS IMPORTANT. 458 00:11:33,626 --> 00:11:34,460 >> EXACTLY. 459 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:35,394 >> YEAH, I SAY I'M A LITTLE 460 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:36,362 OPPOSITE OF CLAYTON, 461 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:37,029 BECAUSE I'M MORE OF 462 00:11:37,029 --> 00:11:38,030 AN EXTROVERT, SO I-- 463 00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:40,232 I TRUSTED PEOPLE A LOT MORE, 464 00:11:40,232 --> 00:11:41,434 AND SOMETIMES I HAD 465 00:11:41,434 --> 00:11:42,701 TO LEARN THAT SOMETIMES 466 00:11:42,701 --> 00:11:43,636 YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 467 00:11:43,636 --> 00:11:45,304 TO TIE BRENDA'S COMMENTS-- 468 00:11:45,304 --> 00:11:46,639 EXCUSE ME, VANESSA'S COMMENTS 469 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,174 BACK IN EARLIER, YOU KNOW, 470 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:49,675 PEOPLE DO COME TO THE TABLE 471 00:11:49,675 --> 00:11:50,843 WITH DIFFERENT SKILLSETS 472 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:51,577 AND YOU HAVE TO 473 00:11:51,577 --> 00:11:52,545 REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, 474 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:53,412 AND THAT IS PART OF 475 00:11:53,412 --> 00:11:54,480 THE KEY TO WORKING 476 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,614 WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, 477 00:11:55,614 --> 00:11:56,649 SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. 478 00:11:56,649 --> 00:11:57,783 NOW, THIS ONE WOULD BE 479 00:11:57,783 --> 00:11:58,784 FOR BRENDA AND WOODROW 480 00:11:58,784 --> 00:11:59,952 IN THAT ORDER. 481 00:11:59,952 --> 00:12:01,287 UM, "WHAT OBSTACLES 482 00:12:01,287 --> 00:12:02,555 DID YOU HAVE TO CROSS 483 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:03,622 TO ACHIEVE YOUR 484 00:12:03,622 --> 00:12:05,624 ULTIMATE CAREER AT NASA?" 485 00:12:05,624 --> 00:12:08,360 >> OKAY, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT 486 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,864 EARLY ON I BEGAN TO RECOGNIZE 487 00:12:11,864 --> 00:12:14,066 THAT SIMPLY DOING A JOB, 488 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:15,434 A GOVERNMENT JOB, 489 00:12:15,434 --> 00:12:17,837 WAS NOT GOING TO GET ME 490 00:12:17,837 --> 00:12:19,271 WHERE I WANTED TO BE, 491 00:12:19,271 --> 00:12:21,107 AND I NEEDED TO DEVELOP 492 00:12:21,107 --> 00:12:22,541 NEW SKILL SETS. 493 00:12:22,541 --> 00:12:25,177 AND SO, I CAME OUT OF 494 00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:27,246 MY COMFORT LEVEL AND BEGAN 495 00:12:27,246 --> 00:12:29,748 TO LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS THAT, 496 00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:31,484 UM, I COULD GAIN 497 00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:32,651 DIFFERENT SKILLS. 498 00:12:32,651 --> 00:12:34,120 AND ONE OF THE THINGS 499 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,188 THAT I DID WAS I BEGAN 500 00:12:36,188 --> 00:12:38,124 TO, UH, DO TRAINING. 501 00:12:38,124 --> 00:12:40,459 AND ULTIMATELY, I BECAME 502 00:12:40,459 --> 00:12:42,094 A PROJECT DIRECTOR, 503 00:12:42,094 --> 00:12:44,363 UH, AT A COMPANY, UH, 504 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:45,397 AND THIS WAS ALL WHILE 505 00:12:45,397 --> 00:12:47,633 I WAS WORKING A GOVERNMENT JOB. 506 00:12:47,633 --> 00:12:50,402 UH, SUBSEQUENTLY, I DECIDED 507 00:12:50,402 --> 00:12:52,338 I WAS GOING TO AGAIN 508 00:12:52,338 --> 00:12:53,873 COME, UH, COME OUT 509 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:55,307 OF MY COMFORT LEVEL 510 00:12:55,307 --> 00:12:57,243 AND I WENT INTO PRIVATE 511 00:12:57,243 --> 00:12:59,478 PRACTICE AS AN ATTORNEY. 512 00:12:59,478 --> 00:13:02,715 AND SO, ALL OF THOSE THINGS 513 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:05,151 COLLECTIVELY GAVE ME 514 00:13:05,151 --> 00:13:06,552 ADDITIONAL SKILL SETS 515 00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:09,155 THAT I THINK, UH, HELPED ME 516 00:13:09,155 --> 00:13:10,456 TO GET WHERE I AM T-- 517 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,591 UH, WHERE I AM TODAY. 518 00:13:12,591 --> 00:13:14,660 BUT ESPECIALLY, UM, 519 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:17,663 HOW I MADE IT TO THE POINT 520 00:13:17,663 --> 00:13:19,965 OF, UH, AN ASSOCIATE 521 00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:22,535 ADMINISTRATOR AT NASA. 522 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:23,936 >> OKAY. 523 00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:24,637 THAT SOUNDS LIKE 524 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:25,571 YOU DEFINITELY HAD 525 00:13:25,571 --> 00:13:26,372 A WELL-ROUNDED, UH, 526 00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:27,540 GROWTH-SPURT THERE, 527 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:28,674 GOING LAWYERS, UH, 528 00:13:28,674 --> 00:13:29,875 THINGS LIKE THAT. 529 00:13:29,875 --> 00:13:30,876 UH, THAT'S ONE THING I WISH-- 530 00:13:30,876 --> 00:13:32,077 I REALLY WISH I HAD DONE 531 00:13:32,077 --> 00:13:33,379 IS BECOME A LAWYER, 532 00:13:33,379 --> 00:13:34,813 BUT NOW I'M GLAD I DIDN'T. 533 00:13:34,813 --> 00:13:35,648 I'M VERY HAPPY 534 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:36,549 WITH WHAT I'M DOING. 535 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:38,384 [ LAUGHING ] 536 00:13:38,384 --> 00:13:40,886 SO, OKAY, SO, UM, WOODROW? 537 00:13:40,886 --> 00:13:42,888 >> WELL, I-I'LL TALK ABOUT, 538 00:13:42,888 --> 00:13:44,256 UH, THE LITTLE BIT OF 539 00:13:44,256 --> 00:13:45,958 WHAT HAL SAID ABOUT CHANGE 540 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:47,560 AND BRENDA SAID ABOUT, 541 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:48,961 UH, COMFORT ZONE. 542 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:50,729 UH, THOSE SORT OF THINGS 543 00:13:50,729 --> 00:13:51,931 I REALLY HAD TO 544 00:13:51,931 --> 00:13:54,166 WORK HARD AT TO OVERCOME. 545 00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:56,869 IN MY 34 YEARS OF NASA, 546 00:13:56,869 --> 00:13:58,237 OF COURSE, I STARTED AT LANGLEY, 547 00:13:58,237 --> 00:13:59,371 THEN I WENT TO HEADQUARTERS, 548 00:13:59,371 --> 00:14:00,739 THEN I WENT BACK TO LANGLEY, 549 00:14:00,739 --> 00:14:02,007 THEN I WENT BACK 550 00:14:02,007 --> 00:14:03,008 TO HEADQUARTERS, 551 00:14:03,008 --> 00:14:04,210 THEN I WENT BACK TO LANGLEY. 552 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:05,945 THEN TO GLENN, THEN TO KENNEDY, 553 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:07,279 THEN TO GLENN, 554 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:09,248 THEN TO HEADQUARTERS. 555 00:14:09,248 --> 00:14:10,316 >> SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE 556 00:14:10,316 --> 00:14:11,450 TROUBLE HOLDING A JOB THERE, 557 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:12,284 WOODROW, WE GOTTA GO. 558 00:14:12,284 --> 00:14:13,485 [ LAUGHING ] 559 00:14:13,485 --> 00:14:14,753 >> I HAD THAT PROBLEM, 560 00:14:14,753 --> 00:14:17,223 BUT I ONLY RELOCATED ONE TIME. 561 00:14:17,223 --> 00:14:18,857 I RELOCATED-RELOCATED FROM, 562 00:14:18,857 --> 00:14:21,493 UH, LANGLEY TO GLENN. 563 00:14:21,493 --> 00:14:23,963 AND SO, I SPENT, UH, 564 00:14:23,963 --> 00:14:25,297 ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS 565 00:14:25,297 --> 00:14:26,599 OF MY CAREER LIVING AWAY 566 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:27,566 FROM HOME AND COMMUTING 567 00:14:27,566 --> 00:14:29,201 ON THE WEEKENDS. 568 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,704 AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 569 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:33,839 SO I REALLY HAD TO STEP 570 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:35,441 OUTSIDE MY COMFORT ZONE 571 00:14:35,441 --> 00:14:37,009 BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT 572 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:38,911 THAT EVERY JOB THAT I WAS IN 573 00:14:38,911 --> 00:14:41,080 WAS THE BEST JOB THAT THERE WAS, 574 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,147 AND I-AND I DID NOT 575 00:14:42,147 --> 00:14:43,349 WANT TO CHANGE. 576 00:14:43,349 --> 00:14:45,184 AND REALLY HAD TO BE PUSHED, 577 00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:48,187 UH, AND FORCED INTO 578 00:14:48,187 --> 00:14:50,856 TAKING NEW ASSIGNMENTS 579 00:14:50,856 --> 00:14:52,591 WITH MORE RESPONSIBILITY, 580 00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:54,126 AND A LOT OF THAT 581 00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:55,194 HAD TO DO WITH NOT 582 00:14:55,194 --> 00:14:56,495 WANTING TO LEAVE HOME. 583 00:14:56,495 --> 00:14:59,098 >> OKAY, THAT'S A VERY 584 00:14:59,098 --> 00:15:00,065 GOOD THING 'CAUSE, UH, 585 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:01,600 IT SHOWS THAT YOUR SKILL LEVELS 586 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,102 AND SKILL SETS WERE DEVELOPING 587 00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:04,670 AND, UH, THEY NEEDED YOU 588 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:05,671 IN NEW POSITIONS TO HELP, 589 00:15:05,671 --> 00:15:06,872 YOU KNOW, GET THE LEADERSHIP 590 00:15:06,872 --> 00:15:08,040 MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, 591 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,174 SO-- AND I KNOW I HAD 592 00:15:09,174 --> 00:15:10,042 THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING 593 00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:11,277 WITH YOU FOR AT LEAST THREE, 594 00:15:11,277 --> 00:15:12,444 FOUR YEARS WHEN YOU WERE 595 00:15:12,444 --> 00:15:13,345 THE ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR 596 00:15:13,345 --> 00:15:14,546 AT MISSION SUPPORT. 597 00:15:14,546 --> 00:15:15,781 AND, UH, I WAS IN AWE 598 00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:16,849 AND LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU 599 00:15:16,849 --> 00:15:17,816 AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE 600 00:15:17,816 --> 00:15:19,084 THAT TIME SPENT WITH YOU. 601 00:15:19,084 --> 00:15:20,219 >> WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. 602 00:15:20,219 --> 00:15:22,154 >> OKAY, UM, THERE'S 603 00:15:22,154 --> 00:15:23,389 ANOTHER VIDEO QUESTION 604 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:24,556 THAT CAME UP. 605 00:15:24,556 --> 00:15:25,557 THIS ONE IS FROM A YOUNG LADY 606 00:15:25,557 --> 00:15:26,825 NAMED COURTNEY LEE. 607 00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:28,927 COURTNEY IS IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA 608 00:15:28,927 --> 00:15:31,196 LEAD AT THE NANCY GRACE ROMAN 609 00:15:31,196 --> 00:15:32,798 SPACE TELESCOPE. 610 00:15:32,798 --> 00:15:34,233 >> WHAT IS SOMETHING 611 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:35,401 EXCITING OR INTERESTING 612 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:36,201 THAT YOU HAVE DONE 613 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:37,336 THAT WASN'T ON YOUR RADAR 614 00:15:37,336 --> 00:15:40,039 WHEN YOU STARTED YOUR CAREER? 615 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:42,207 >> I THINK THAT, UH, 616 00:15:42,207 --> 00:15:43,342 ONE OF THE THINGS 617 00:15:43,342 --> 00:15:46,745 THAT I DID WAS, UM, 618 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:50,416 I TRIED TO, UH, LOOK AT 619 00:15:50,416 --> 00:15:51,817 DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, 620 00:15:51,817 --> 00:15:55,988 UM, WITHIN NASA THAT 621 00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:59,425 WOULD ALLOW ME TO GAIN 622 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:00,526 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, 623 00:16:00,526 --> 00:16:01,827 NEW PERSPECTIVES. 624 00:16:01,827 --> 00:16:03,796 AND AS A RESULT, 625 00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:05,964 I WAS ALWAYS VOLUNTEERING 626 00:16:05,964 --> 00:16:07,166 TO DO SOMETHING THAT 627 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:08,667 I HADN'T DONE BEFORE. 628 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:11,270 AND I THINK THAT'S 629 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,539 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR YOU 630 00:16:13,539 --> 00:16:15,040 TO GAIN A BROADER PERSPECTIVE 631 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,343 OF WHAT'S GOING ON, 632 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:18,911 NOT ONLY IN THE AGENCY, 633 00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,280 UM, BUT PERSONALLY, 634 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,948 HOW YOU FIT IN, 635 00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:25,017 AND HOW YOU CAN WORK 636 00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:26,018 TO BETTER YOURSELF 637 00:16:26,018 --> 00:16:27,753 AND DO THOSE THINGS 638 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:28,854 THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT 639 00:16:28,854 --> 00:16:31,623 AS A LEADER. 640 00:16:31,623 --> 00:16:32,624 >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS 641 00:16:32,624 --> 00:16:34,993 THAT MY CAREER GAVE ME 642 00:16:34,993 --> 00:16:36,495 AS AN INSIGHT VERY EARLY, 643 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:37,796 IS I WAS THE ONLY-- 644 00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:39,231 I WAS LIKELY THE ONLY 645 00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:41,300 AFRICAN AMERICAN OR MAYBE ONLY 646 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,268 ONE OTHER PERSON WAS INVOLVED 647 00:16:43,268 --> 00:16:45,204 IN OUR TECHNOLOGY TEAMS. 648 00:16:45,204 --> 00:16:46,505 UH, IT WAS VERY LIMITED 649 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:47,873 PARTICIPATION BY OUR 650 00:16:47,873 --> 00:16:49,708 BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 651 00:16:49,708 --> 00:16:51,944 SO, I FOUND THAT, UH, 652 00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:53,812 I WAS USUALLY GIVEN WHAT 653 00:16:53,812 --> 00:16:55,848 SOMETIMES WAS REFERRED TO 654 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:58,484 AS, UH, A CARTE BLANCHE 655 00:16:58,484 --> 00:16:59,785 THAT IF I WAS ASKED 656 00:16:59,785 --> 00:17:00,686 TO DO SOMETHING, 657 00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:01,687 I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT. 658 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,322 PEOPLE FELT OBLIGATED TO TRY 659 00:17:03,322 --> 00:17:04,857 TO BE OF ASSISTANCE TO US, 660 00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:06,091 'CAUSE AFRICAN AMERICANS 661 00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:07,159 IN THOSE DAYS. 662 00:17:07,159 --> 00:17:08,460 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS 663 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:09,361 THAT I GAINED FROM THAT 664 00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:10,462 EXPERIENCE WITH THEM IS 665 00:17:10,462 --> 00:17:11,563 I SAID, "I NEED TO GO 666 00:17:11,563 --> 00:17:12,631 IN THE WORLD WHERE THINGS 667 00:17:12,631 --> 00:17:13,599 ARE HAPPENING, GET OUT OF 668 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:15,067 THE LAB WHERE YOU'RE BASICALLY 669 00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:16,335 WORKING WITH CIRCUIT DESIGNS 670 00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:18,270 OR SOME PARTICULAR TEST. 671 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:19,338 GO OUT IN THE FIELD 672 00:17:19,338 --> 00:17:20,072 WHERE THESE THINGS 673 00:17:20,072 --> 00:17:20,906 ARE HAPPENING." 674 00:17:20,906 --> 00:17:22,174 AND I THINK THAT'LL BRING ME 675 00:17:22,174 --> 00:17:24,243 BACK WITH AN ADDED SENSE OF, 676 00:17:24,243 --> 00:17:25,978 UH, CAPABILITY THAT I WOULD-- 677 00:17:25,978 --> 00:17:27,212 I WOULD HAVE NOW TO ADD 678 00:17:27,212 --> 00:17:28,447 TO WHAT I HAD IN THE LAB. 679 00:17:28,447 --> 00:17:29,948 SO, I WORKED IN WHAT'S CALLED 680 00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:30,883 FIELD ENGINEERING 681 00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:31,884 FOR PROBABLY THE GREATER 682 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,352 PART OF MY CAREER, 683 00:17:33,352 --> 00:17:35,187 AND WHAT THAT DID IS LEAD ME 684 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:36,488 TOWARD THE APOLLO MISSION 685 00:17:36,488 --> 00:17:37,856 WHERE I WAS ASKED TO 686 00:17:37,856 --> 00:17:39,291 OPERATE THE LASER THAT 687 00:17:39,291 --> 00:17:40,692 CONDUCTED THE FIRST, UH, 688 00:17:40,692 --> 00:17:42,060 INTERPLANETARY LASER, 689 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,195 ARRANGE THE EXPERIMENT BETWEEN 690 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:44,496 THE EARTH AND THE MOON. 691 00:17:44,496 --> 00:17:45,297 NOW, OF COURSE, 692 00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:46,799 AS I THINK I'VE MENTIONED 693 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:48,200 IN SOME OTHER ARTICLES 694 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,401 I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THEM, 695 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:51,136 I WAS NOT A MEMBER OF NASA. 696 00:17:51,136 --> 00:17:52,938 NASA DID HAVE A LASER 697 00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:54,940 OPERATIONS TEAM AT LIGO 698 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:56,074 OBSERVATORY WHERE WE, UH, 699 00:17:56,074 --> 00:17:58,143 CONDUCTED THE EXPERIMENT FROM. 700 00:17:58,143 --> 00:17:59,645 HOWEVER, NASA UNFORTUNATELY 701 00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:00,712 DID RUN INTO TROUBLE, 702 00:18:00,712 --> 00:18:02,681 AND OUR SYSTEM WAS THE BACKUP, 703 00:18:02,681 --> 00:18:03,816 SO WE WERE BROUGHT IN 704 00:18:03,816 --> 00:18:05,150 TO TAKE OVER AFTER 705 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:06,552 THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED. 706 00:18:06,552 --> 00:18:07,453 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS 707 00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:08,420 THAT I ALWAYS WANT TO 708 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:09,755 REMIND OURSELVES AND OUR-- 709 00:18:09,755 --> 00:18:10,956 ALL THE FOLKS THAT WORK 710 00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:12,157 IN THE VAST TECHNOLOGY. 711 00:18:12,157 --> 00:18:13,992 WHEN THINGS-- IF SOMETHING CAN-- 712 00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:15,994 WAS THAT MU-- MURPHY'S LAW? 713 00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:17,362 ALWAYS KEEP AN EYE 714 00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:18,530 ON MURPHY'S LAW. 715 00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:19,398 IF SOMETHING'S GONNA 716 00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:21,133 GO WRONG, IT WILL. 717 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,367 SO, FOR US, WHEN SOMETHING 718 00:18:22,367 --> 00:18:23,602 WENT WRONG WITH MY LASER 719 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:25,170 AT LIGO OBSERVATORY 720 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:26,371 ON THE SECOND DAY 721 00:18:26,371 --> 00:18:27,940 OF THE LANDING, UH, 722 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,842 A-AT THE MOON, OF COURSE, 723 00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:30,976 UH, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD 724 00:18:30,976 --> 00:18:32,344 WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT 725 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:33,245 WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO 726 00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:34,413 TO FIX THIS THING? 727 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:35,547 AND OF COURSE, THE ANSWER 728 00:18:35,547 --> 00:18:37,015 I GAVE THEM IS LET'S FIRST 729 00:18:37,015 --> 00:18:38,250 TURN OFF OUR RADIOS, 730 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:39,351 'CAUSE THAT'LL ALLOW ME 731 00:18:39,351 --> 00:18:40,152 TO THINK ABOUT THINGS 732 00:18:40,152 --> 00:18:41,086 FOR A MINUTE. 733 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:41,954 AND THEN THE OTHER THING 734 00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:42,754 IS THAT ONCE WE'VE GOT 735 00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:43,922 THINGS GOING AGAIN, 736 00:18:43,922 --> 00:18:45,290 HEADQUARTERS LET US KNOW 737 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:46,125 WAS THAT WE'VE GOTTA 738 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,526 GET THIS REFLECTED BEFORE 739 00:18:47,526 --> 00:18:48,494 THE RUSSIANS DID, AND THAT WAS-- 740 00:18:48,494 --> 00:18:49,328 REMEMBER, THERE WAS 741 00:18:49,328 --> 00:18:50,863 COLD WARS GOING ON. 742 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:51,897 SO, ALL OF A SUDDEN 743 00:18:51,897 --> 00:18:52,831 I WAS GIVEN THIS-- 744 00:18:52,831 --> 00:18:54,299 THIS KIND OF A COMMAND. 745 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:55,334 WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW 746 00:18:55,334 --> 00:18:56,401 WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, HAL. 747 00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,237 JUST GO DO IT! 748 00:18:58,237 --> 00:18:59,238 YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD 749 00:18:59,238 --> 00:19:01,240 THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE. 750 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,374 BUT ANYWAY, WE WERE 751 00:19:02,374 --> 00:19:03,609 SUCCESSFUL AND WHAT 752 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:04,710 I LEARNED FROM THAT AGAIN 753 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,245 IS BE READY TO TAKE ON 754 00:19:06,245 --> 00:19:07,479 A CHALLENGE AND GIVE IT 755 00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:09,248 EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT. 756 00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:11,283 >> THAT WAS VERY WELL SAID, 757 00:19:11,283 --> 00:19:12,851 HAL, AND I THINK MOST OF US 758 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:14,419 CAN IDENTIFY WITH THOSE TIMES 759 00:19:14,419 --> 00:19:15,554 AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE 760 00:19:15,554 --> 00:19:17,055 HEARD THOSE ORDERS BEFORE. 761 00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:18,090 I DON'T CARE HOW 762 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:19,491 YOU GET IT DONE, GET IT DONE. 763 00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:20,492 AND SOMEONE TURNS AROUND 764 00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:21,693 AND LEAVES THE ROOM, 765 00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:22,594 AND THEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE, 766 00:19:22,594 --> 00:19:23,595 SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD GOING 767 00:19:23,595 --> 00:19:25,697 "OKAY, LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT." 768 00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:27,566 OKAY, AND ACTUALLY, UH, 769 00:19:27,566 --> 00:19:28,467 COURTNEY HAS ANOTHER 770 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:29,835 FOLLOW-UP VIDEO QUESTION. 771 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,004 >> IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW 772 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:33,038 THE JOB YOU DREAMED OF 773 00:19:33,038 --> 00:19:33,805 AS A KID? 774 00:19:33,805 --> 00:19:34,806 IF NOT, WHAT WAS YOUR 775 00:19:34,806 --> 00:19:36,708 CHILDHOOD DREAM JOB? 776 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:37,543 >> UH, I'M GONNA THROW THAT 777 00:19:37,543 --> 00:19:38,710 INTO WOODROW'S COURT, 778 00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:40,112 AND THEN VANESSA, IF YOU 779 00:19:40,112 --> 00:19:41,113 CAN FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT, 780 00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:42,347 I'D APPRECIATE IT. 781 00:19:42,347 --> 00:19:43,048 >> WELL, I HAD, 782 00:19:43,048 --> 00:19:44,383 UM, ABOUT THREE 783 00:19:44,383 --> 00:19:46,351 CHILDHOOD DREAM JOBS. 784 00:19:46,351 --> 00:19:48,720 UM, M-MY FIRST ONE WAS, 785 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,290 UM, I WAS GONNA PLAY LEFT FIELD 786 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:52,724 FOR THE DETROIT TIGERS. 787 00:19:52,724 --> 00:19:54,259 AND, UH-- 788 00:19:54,259 --> 00:19:55,894 >> WELL, YOU SHOULD BE 789 00:19:55,894 --> 00:19:56,895 THE HOT CORNER, WOODROW. 790 00:19:56,895 --> 00:19:57,829 YOU SHOULD BE THE HOT CORNER, 791 00:19:57,829 --> 00:19:58,764 THIRD BASE! 792 00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:00,198 >> UH, THAT-THAT'S TOO CLOSE. 793 00:20:00,198 --> 00:20:02,200 [ CHUCKLING ] 794 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,069 TH-THEN I WAS GONNA BE, 795 00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:06,605 UH, A WORLD-FAMOUS CHEMIST. 796 00:20:06,605 --> 00:20:08,707 AND, UM, AND THEN, 797 00:20:08,707 --> 00:20:12,344 UH, ABOUT 1961-1962, 798 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:14,379 NASA STARTED PUTTING PEOPLE 799 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:15,347 ON TOP OF ROCKETS 800 00:20:15,347 --> 00:20:17,649 AND LAUNCHING THEM INTO SPACE, 801 00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:19,384 AND THEN I DECIDED I WAS, UM, 802 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:21,253 GOING TO BE AN ASTRONAUT. 803 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:23,088 SO, I DID MY RESEARCH 804 00:20:23,088 --> 00:20:25,357 AND I FOUND OUT THAT, UH, 805 00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:26,224 WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD TO 806 00:20:26,224 --> 00:20:27,492 GET A DEGREE IN AERONAUTICS 807 00:20:27,492 --> 00:20:28,293 AND ASTRONAUTICS 808 00:20:28,293 --> 00:20:30,095 AND GO WORK FOR NASA, 809 00:20:30,095 --> 00:20:31,463 THEN I COULD BE AN ASTRONAUT. 810 00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:33,098 SO, I'VE WENT AND GOT 811 00:20:33,098 --> 00:20:34,666 MY DEGREES IN AERONAUTICS 812 00:20:34,666 --> 00:20:36,335 AND ASTRONAUTICS FROM MIT. 813 00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:38,837 UH, WENT TO NASA, AND THEN 814 00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:40,205 WHEN THE SHUTTLE PROGRAM 815 00:20:40,205 --> 00:20:42,107 WAS JUST GEARING UP 816 00:20:42,107 --> 00:20:45,444 IN THE EARLY 80s, I APPLIED 817 00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:46,745 FOR THE PROGRAM AND WAS 818 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,213 DOING PRETTY GOOD UNTIL 819 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:50,882 THEY SENT ME TO AN EYE DOCTOR, 820 00:20:50,882 --> 00:20:51,783 AND THEY HAD SOMETHING CALLED 821 00:20:51,783 --> 00:20:54,586 "LOW-LIGHT VISION UNCORRECTED." 822 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:55,587 AND WHEN I WENT 823 00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:56,922 AND SAT IN THE CHAIR AND-- 824 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,290 WITHOUT MY GLASSES, 825 00:20:58,290 --> 00:20:59,124 AND THEY ASKED ME 826 00:20:59,124 --> 00:21:01,159 TO READ THE CHART. 827 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:02,761 AND MY RESPONSE WAS, 828 00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:03,495 "WHAT CHART ARE YOU 829 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:04,396 TALKING ABOUT?" 830 00:21:04,396 --> 00:21:05,697 [ LAUGHING ] 831 00:21:05,697 --> 00:21:07,866 >> I SAY THAT, OFTEN! 832 00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:10,936 >> SO, UH, SO, UH, 833 00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:11,803 I ENDED UP, UH, 834 00:21:11,803 --> 00:21:13,305 NOT BEING AN ASTRONAUT. 835 00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:15,574 BUT, UM, UH, ONE THING 836 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:16,842 I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 837 00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:17,676 AND DON'T EVER HAVE TO 838 00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:19,678 ASK MYSELF THE QUESTION OF, 839 00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,480 "WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF?" 840 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,781 BECAUSE I KNOW. 841 00:21:22,781 --> 00:21:25,851 AND, UM, AND SO 842 00:21:25,851 --> 00:21:27,285 A CAREER AS A RESEARCHER 843 00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:29,187 AND CENTER DIRECTOR 844 00:21:29,187 --> 00:21:30,522 AND ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR 845 00:21:30,522 --> 00:21:34,159 IS NOT SO BAD AT NASA, AFTERALL. 846 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:36,061 >> YEAH, THAT'S VERY WELL SAID. 847 00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:37,796 I HAD ALMOST A VERY SIMILAR 848 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:39,031 EXPERIENCE BECAUSE, UH, 849 00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:39,965 MY CHILDHOOD DREAM WAS 850 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:40,932 TO BE A FIGHTER PILOT, 851 00:21:40,932 --> 00:21:42,267 AND THEN THEY ASKED ME 852 00:21:42,267 --> 00:21:43,802 TO TOUCH THE RED LIGHT 853 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:44,569 AND THE GREEN LIGHT. 854 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:45,270 AND I SAID, 855 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:46,104 "THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME COLOR. 856 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:46,905 WHAT LIGHT'S RED, 857 00:21:46,905 --> 00:21:47,806 WHAT LIGHT'S GREEN?" 858 00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:49,341 SO, UH, THAT QUICKLY, UH, 859 00:21:49,341 --> 00:21:50,876 GOT MY DR-- MY CHILDHOOD DREAMS, 860 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:52,477 UH, DERAILED A LITTLE BIT. 861 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:53,345 >> YEAH. 862 00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:55,080 >> OKAY, SO, VANESSA? 863 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,182 >> SO, UM, A LITTLE 864 00:21:57,182 --> 00:21:58,116 DIFFERENT FOR ME. 865 00:21:58,116 --> 00:21:59,317 UH, I GREW UP, UH, 866 00:21:59,317 --> 00:22:00,852 ON THE COAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA 867 00:22:00,852 --> 00:22:02,888 AND, UH, I USED TO LOVE 868 00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:04,589 TO WATCH JACQUES COUSTEAU. 869 00:22:04,589 --> 00:22:06,191 AND I THOUGHT THAT I WAS 870 00:22:06,191 --> 00:22:08,093 GONNA BE A MARINE BIOLOGIST, 871 00:22:08,093 --> 00:22:09,394 BUT I REALLY DIDN'T 872 00:22:09,394 --> 00:22:10,529 KNOW HOW TO BECOME 873 00:22:10,529 --> 00:22:11,863 A MARINE BIOLOGIST. 874 00:22:11,863 --> 00:22:13,765 UH, SO, UM, 875 00:22:13,765 --> 00:22:15,600 MY BIOLOGY TEACHER THOUGH, 876 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,202 SHE HAD A BIG INFLUENCE ON ME. 877 00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:19,871 SHE INSPIRED ME TO PURSUE 878 00:22:19,871 --> 00:22:22,374 MY DREAMS IN SCIENCE. 879 00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:24,976 AND SO, I WENT TO COLLEGE 880 00:22:24,976 --> 00:22:27,012 AND, UM, I ACTUALLY 881 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:29,414 STARTED OUT AS A, UM, 882 00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:31,450 MICROBIOLOGY MAJOR. 883 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:32,951 UH, THEN I FOUND OUT 884 00:22:32,951 --> 00:22:34,086 THAT I REALLY DIDN'T LIKE 885 00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:35,987 MICROSCOPES ALL THAT MUCH. 886 00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:38,724 AND SO, I SWITCHED 887 00:22:38,724 --> 00:22:41,159 TO ENGINEERING AND, UM, 888 00:22:41,159 --> 00:22:43,628 I'VE NEVER LOOKED BACK. 889 00:22:43,628 --> 00:22:45,831 FOUND-FOUND MY TRUE CALLING 890 00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:47,466 AS AN ENGINEER. 891 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:49,201 I GOT MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE, 892 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,535 AND THEN, UH, WAS, 893 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:52,037 UH, FORTUNATE THAT, UH, 894 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:54,840 I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET 895 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,675 A MASTERS IN BIOENGINEERING, 896 00:22:56,675 --> 00:22:57,442 SO I WAS ABLE TO 897 00:22:57,442 --> 00:22:58,577 COMBINE THE TWO. 898 00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:00,445 AND SO WHEN I GOT TO NASA, 899 00:23:00,445 --> 00:23:02,948 UM, I ACTUALLY STARTED 900 00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:04,049 MY CAREER DOING 901 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,884 EXPERIMENTS ON ASTRONAUTS, 902 00:23:05,884 --> 00:23:08,086 AND THAT WAS MY DREAM JOB. 903 00:23:08,086 --> 00:23:08,920 SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT 904 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,188 HOW YOU H-HAVE A JOB 905 00:23:10,188 --> 00:23:11,356 AND YOU THINK THAT'S 906 00:23:11,356 --> 00:23:12,157 THE BEST JOB EVER, 907 00:23:12,157 --> 00:23:12,791 SO I DON'T WANT TO 908 00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:13,658 EVER LET IT GO. 909 00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:15,193 AND THAT WAS IT FOR ME, 910 00:23:15,193 --> 00:23:16,595 UH, BUT I WILL SAY, 911 00:23:16,595 --> 00:23:17,896 YOU KNOW, TAKING RISK 912 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:19,831 AND CHANGING JOBS, UH, 913 00:23:19,831 --> 00:23:21,666 WORKING MY WAY UP THROUGH 914 00:23:21,666 --> 00:23:23,001 THE LADDER TO BECOMING 915 00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:24,236 A DEPUTY CENTER DIRECTOR 916 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:24,936 HERE AT NASA'S 917 00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:26,471 JOHNSON SPACE CENTER... 918 00:23:26,471 --> 00:23:28,273 IT IS A GREAT JOB. 919 00:23:28,273 --> 00:23:30,242 >> THAT WAS VERY FASCINATING. 920 00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:31,243 WHAT PART OF SOUTH CAROLINA 921 00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,644 DID YOU GROW UP AT? 922 00:23:32,644 --> 00:23:33,945 >> UH, WELL, 923 00:23:33,945 --> 00:23:35,280 IT'S NEAR MYRTLE BEACH. 924 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,248 >> OKAY. 925 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:37,082 >> YEAH. 926 00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:37,783 >> YEAH, BECAUSE I HAVE-- 927 00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:38,517 MY WIFE'S FAMILY IS 928 00:23:38,517 --> 00:23:39,251 FROM AROUND THERE NEAR 929 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:40,185 THE FLORENCE NEIGHBORHOOD. 930 00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:41,453 BUT I GO TO MYRTLE BEACH A LOT 931 00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:42,854 BECAUSE I TRY TO CHASE THAT 932 00:23:42,854 --> 00:23:44,456 LITTLE WHITE BALL CALLED GOLF, 933 00:23:44,456 --> 00:23:45,457 AND THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE 934 00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:46,525 A LOT OF PEOPLE GO. 935 00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:47,559 SO-- 936 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:48,560 >> THAT'S MY HAPPY PLACE. 937 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,895 >> YEAH, IT IS MINE, TOO. 938 00:23:49,895 --> 00:23:51,296 [ CHUCKLING ] 939 00:23:51,296 --> 00:23:52,497 YEAH, BUT SOMETIMES 940 00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:53,331 IT'S FRUSTRATING, 941 00:23:53,331 --> 00:23:54,432 WHEN YOU'RE AT MYRTLE BEACH. 942 00:23:54,432 --> 00:23:55,967 I'LL TELL YOU THAT. 943 00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,435 WOODROW AND I USED 944 00:23:57,435 --> 00:23:58,336 TO PLAY QUITE A BIT, 945 00:23:58,336 --> 00:23:59,471 SO WE HAD A LOT OF FUN. 946 00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:00,739 NEXT QUESTION IS, 947 00:24:00,739 --> 00:24:02,340 "WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT 948 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:03,275 LEADERSHIP LESSON 949 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:04,643 YOU'VE LEARNED?" 950 00:24:04,643 --> 00:24:05,577 I THINK OUR AUDIENCE WOULD 951 00:24:05,577 --> 00:24:07,145 REALLY LIKE TO GET A LOT 952 00:24:07,145 --> 00:24:08,313 OUT OF THAT PART BECAUSE 953 00:24:08,313 --> 00:24:09,848 OUR LEARNING-- YOU KNOW, 954 00:24:09,848 --> 00:24:10,515 WE'VE GONE THROUGH 955 00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:12,050 20 YEARS OF THIS STUFF. 956 00:24:12,050 --> 00:24:13,885 UM, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE 957 00:24:13,885 --> 00:24:14,820 IF WE CAN PASS THIS ON 958 00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:15,887 TO THE NEXT GENERATION 959 00:24:15,887 --> 00:24:16,755 A LITTLE BIT. 960 00:24:16,755 --> 00:24:19,191 >> SO, I WILL SAY IT WAS, 961 00:24:19,191 --> 00:24:20,458 UH, IN MY CAREER AS, 962 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:21,960 UH, AS I WAS MOVING FROM 963 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,894 POSITIONS IN THE LAB 964 00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:23,895 OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT 965 00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:25,163 INTO LEADERSHIP. 966 00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:27,299 AND, UH, AND BRENDA, 967 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,066 I THINK IT'S A PROGRAM 968 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:29,467 THAT YOU AND JANET STARTED, 969 00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:31,469 YOU WANTED EARLY CAREER LEADERS 970 00:24:31,469 --> 00:24:33,405 TO DO LEADERSHIP TALKS. 971 00:24:33,405 --> 00:24:34,372 AND SO, JANET TALKED 972 00:24:34,372 --> 00:24:35,173 TO ME ABOUT IT. 973 00:24:35,173 --> 00:24:36,875 AND I, OF COURSE, 974 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:38,643 PREPARED MY POWERPOINT SLIDES 975 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:40,378 WITH ALL THE DEFINITIONS 976 00:24:40,378 --> 00:24:41,446 OF LEADERSHIP AND WAS 977 00:24:41,446 --> 00:24:42,581 PREPARED TO TALK DOWN 978 00:24:42,581 --> 00:24:43,615 THE STRUCTURE OF IT. 979 00:24:43,615 --> 00:24:44,816 AND JANET SAID, 980 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:45,650 "THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT, 981 00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:47,152 I WANT YOU." 982 00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:48,320 SO, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT 983 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,354 FOR A BIT AND I SHARED 984 00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:52,123 SOME STORIES OF WHAT 985 00:24:52,123 --> 00:24:53,158 HAD HAPPENED IN MY CAREER. 986 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:54,426 NOT GETTING SELECTED FOR 987 00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,660 A JOB, AND-AND WHAT 988 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:56,561 THAT FELT LIKE. 989 00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:59,064 AND-AND HAVING A PROJECT 990 00:24:59,064 --> 00:25:01,399 MANAGER WHEN I WAS, UH, 991 00:25:01,399 --> 00:25:02,834 EARLY CAREER ENGINEER ASK ME 992 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:04,636 QUESTIONS ABOUT MY WORK. 993 00:25:04,636 --> 00:25:05,770 AND SHE JUST ASKED 994 00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:07,138 QUESTION AFTER QUESTION 995 00:25:07,138 --> 00:25:08,139 AFTER QUESTION, 996 00:25:08,139 --> 00:25:08,907 AND WHEN I WENT 997 00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:09,674 BACK TO MY DESK, 998 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:10,709 I SAT AND SAID, "WELL, 999 00:25:10,709 --> 00:25:11,910 WHY DID SHE ASK ME THIS?" 1000 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,345 AND "WHY DID SHE ASK ME THAT?" 1001 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:14,379 AND WHEN I GOT 1002 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:15,747 TO ABOUT THE THIRD ONE, 1003 00:25:15,747 --> 00:25:16,648 IT OCCURED TO ME 1004 00:25:16,648 --> 00:25:18,149 THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. 1005 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:20,352 NOW, SHE COULD'VE JUST TOLD ME, 1006 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:21,486 "GO DO IT THIS WAY," 1007 00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:22,387 BUT SHE CHOSE 1008 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:23,788 TO INVEST TIME IN ME 1009 00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:25,590 FOR ME TO FIGURE IT OUT. 1010 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:29,194 SO, WHEN YOU-YOU-YOU SHARE 1011 00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:29,995 THOSE STORIES 1012 00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,196 AND TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS 1013 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,464 AND, AT THE END OF THAT TALK, 1014 00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:34,399 I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE COME UP, 1015 00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:35,834 AND THEY WERE IN TEARS. 1016 00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:36,668 NOT BECAUSE I WAS 1017 00:25:36,668 --> 00:25:37,669 AN AMAZING SPEAKER, 1018 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:39,004 THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T THE CASE. 1019 00:25:39,004 --> 00:25:40,705 IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HEARD 1020 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:42,874 EVERYTHING DIDN'T GO PERFECTLY, 1021 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:44,075 EVERYTHING DIDN'T GO RIGHT. 1022 00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:45,844 SO THE LESSON, I WILL SAY, 1023 00:25:45,844 --> 00:25:48,280 IS BE WILLING TO SHARE YOURSELF. 1024 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,481 AND AS AN INTROVERT, 1025 00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:50,949 THAT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME. 1026 00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:52,117 UH, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE 1027 00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:53,151 WILLING TO SHARE YOURSELF. 1028 00:25:53,151 --> 00:25:54,519 YOUR PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE IT. 1029 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:56,154 AND-AND-AND THAT GOES 1030 00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:57,155 BEYOND OUR WORK. 1031 00:25:57,155 --> 00:25:58,290 WE HAVE TO SHARE OURSELVES. 1032 00:25:58,290 --> 00:25:58,924 YOU KNOW, 1033 00:25:58,924 --> 00:25:59,891 THE "SEE IT TO BE IT." 1034 00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:01,259 SO THAT WAS A BIG LESSON FOR ME 1035 00:26:01,259 --> 00:26:01,993 IN LEADERSHIP. 1036 00:26:01,993 --> 00:26:02,928 YOU HAVE TO-- YOU HAVE TO BE 1037 00:26:02,928 --> 00:26:03,728 WILLING TO BE OPEN 1038 00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:06,197 AND, IN SOME CASES, VULNERABLE. 1039 00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:08,667 >> THAT-THAT WAS VERY WELL SAID. 1040 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:09,634 UH, I THINK PEOPLE 1041 00:26:09,634 --> 00:26:10,602 CAN DEFINITELY LEARN A LOT 1042 00:26:10,602 --> 00:26:11,303 JUST FROM LISTENING 1043 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,070 TO THAT PART, 1044 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:14,172 AND I'M GLAD THAT THAT TIME 1045 00:26:14,172 --> 00:26:15,507 COULD ACTUALLY-- 1046 00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:17,108 UNDERSTAND YOU AS AN INTROVERT 1047 00:26:17,108 --> 00:26:18,410 AND BRING IT OUT OF YOU, 1048 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:19,744 BECAUSE, UH, I SEE YOU 1049 00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:21,012 JUST DOIN' THE POWERPOINT 1050 00:26:21,012 --> 00:26:22,914 AND THAT PERSON BEING ABLE 1051 00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,482 TO EXTRACT THAT OUT OF YOU 1052 00:26:24,482 --> 00:26:25,984 OPENED YOU UP, I THINK, 1053 00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:26,985 A LITTLE MORE TO REALLY 1054 00:26:26,985 --> 00:26:29,054 DEVELOP YOU TO WHO YOU ARE. 1055 00:26:29,054 --> 00:26:30,655 AND, UH, THAT WAS WELL SAID. 1056 00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:32,023 UM, VANESSA. 1057 00:26:32,023 --> 00:26:34,359 >> OH, SO I WILL SAY, UM, 1058 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,962 PROBABLY EMPOWERING 1059 00:26:36,962 --> 00:26:38,296 YOUR-YOUR TEAM 1060 00:26:38,296 --> 00:26:39,864 OR YOUR ORGANIZATION. 1061 00:26:39,864 --> 00:26:41,833 UM, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU KNOW, 1062 00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:43,068 AS-AS CLAYTON SAID, 1063 00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:45,537 YOU KNOW, MICROMANAGING 1064 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:47,238 AND TELLING THEM HOW TO DO IT, 1065 00:26:47,238 --> 00:26:49,007 BUT HELPING THEM TO LEARN. 1066 00:26:49,007 --> 00:26:50,976 BUT-BUT I THINK, UH, TRUST, 1067 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:52,610 UH, I THINK MAYBE HAL 1068 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:53,645 MENTIONED THAT EARLIER. 1069 00:26:53,645 --> 00:26:56,014 BUT HAVING TRUST, UH, 1070 00:26:56,014 --> 00:26:57,282 IN YOUR-IN YOUR TEAM 1071 00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:59,484 AND GIVING THEM THE RESOURCES, 1072 00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:00,585 BUT LETTING THEM KNOW 1073 00:27:00,585 --> 00:27:01,886 THAT YOU TRUST 1074 00:27:01,886 --> 00:27:02,821 THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO, 1075 00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:03,488 AND THEY'RE GONNA 1076 00:27:03,488 --> 00:27:04,522 DO THE RIGHT THING. 1077 00:27:04,522 --> 00:27:05,357 AND I HAVE FOUND THAT, 1078 00:27:05,357 --> 00:27:06,825 WHEN YOU EMPOWER PEOPLE, 1079 00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:08,093 THEY DO AMAZING. 1080 00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,328 BECAUSE THEY KNOW 1081 00:27:10,328 --> 00:27:12,163 THAT YOU HAVE THEIR BACK 1082 00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:14,332 WHEN-WHEN THEY NEED YOU, 1083 00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:15,700 BUT YOU TRUST THAT THEY'RE 1084 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:17,168 GONNA GET THE JOB DONE. 1085 00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:18,503 >> THAT IS-- 1086 00:27:18,503 --> 00:27:19,537 THAT'S WELL SAID, TOO. 1087 00:27:19,537 --> 00:27:21,306 UM, I'M GONNA-- YOU KNOW, 1088 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:22,540 I'M THE MODERATOR. 1089 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:23,441 I'LL THROW IN A LITTLE BIT 1090 00:27:23,441 --> 00:27:25,276 OF MY OPINION OF THAT, 1091 00:27:25,276 --> 00:27:26,277 BUT THEN I'M ACTUALLY GONNA 1092 00:27:26,277 --> 00:27:27,145 OPEN IT UP TO, UH, 1093 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:28,346 WOODROW AND BRENDA A LITTLE BIT, 1094 00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:29,347 IF THEY WANNA COMMENT ON 1095 00:27:29,347 --> 00:27:30,648 WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT 1096 00:27:30,648 --> 00:27:31,449 LEADERSHIP LESSON 1097 00:27:31,449 --> 00:27:32,317 YOU LEARNED. 1098 00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:33,551 BUT, UH, AS A LEADER, 1099 00:27:33,551 --> 00:27:35,153 I-I WON'T SAY UNFORTUNATELY, 1100 00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:36,254 BUT I CAME INTO NASA 1101 00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:38,023 AS AN ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR 1102 00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:38,890 BACK IN THE DAY. 1103 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:40,625 SO I CAME IN HIGH. 1104 00:27:40,625 --> 00:27:41,426 YOU KNOW, I USED TO WORK 1105 00:27:41,426 --> 00:27:42,093 ON THE STAFF 1106 00:27:42,093 --> 00:27:43,094 OF THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY 1107 00:27:43,094 --> 00:27:44,029 FOR A WHILE. 1108 00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:45,196 UM, I USED TO BUY 1109 00:27:45,196 --> 00:27:46,297 MAJOR WEAPONS SYSTEMS, 1110 00:27:46,297 --> 00:27:47,532 YOU KNOW, I USED TO BUY THE F-18 1111 00:27:47,532 --> 00:27:48,700 AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE 1112 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:49,901 AND LEARNED A LOT 1113 00:27:49,901 --> 00:27:50,869 OF MY LEADERSHIP SKILLS. 1114 00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:51,703 BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING 1115 00:27:51,703 --> 00:27:52,771 I REALLY LEARNED 1116 00:27:52,771 --> 00:27:54,472 ONCE I BECAME A SUPERVISOR 1117 00:27:54,472 --> 00:27:55,840 AND THEN A LEADER IS 1118 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,809 YOU HAVE TO TRUST YOUR PEOPLE. 1119 00:27:57,809 --> 00:27:58,576 AND BOTH HAL 1120 00:27:58,576 --> 00:27:59,744 AND BER-- AND VANESSA 1121 00:27:59,744 --> 00:28:00,845 SAID THAT VERY WELL. 1122 00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:03,081 AND I AM A VERY HANDS-OFF, 1123 00:28:03,081 --> 00:28:05,283 UH, UM, MANAGER, LEADER. 1124 00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:07,085 I LET PEOPLE LEARN 1125 00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:08,686 A LITTLE BIT BY THEIR MISTAKES, 1126 00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:09,654 AND THEN I TEACH THEM 1127 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:11,022 HOW THEY MADE THEIR MISTAKE-- 1128 00:28:11,022 --> 00:28:11,656 BUT I MAKE SURE 1129 00:28:11,656 --> 00:28:12,757 THEY WERE TRAINED UP FRONT. 1130 00:28:12,757 --> 00:28:13,992 AND IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE, 1131 00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,794 THEY LEARN A LOT FROM THAT 1132 00:28:15,794 --> 00:28:17,262 AND THEY WON'T USUALLY MAKE 1133 00:28:17,262 --> 00:28:18,430 THAT SAME MISTAKE AGAIN 1134 00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:19,464 AND THEY'LL GROW FROM IT, 1135 00:28:19,464 --> 00:28:20,331 AND THEY APPRECIATE YOU 1136 00:28:20,331 --> 00:28:21,199 TRUSTING THEM 1137 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:22,901 TO LEARN THAT WAY 1138 00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:23,601 A LITTLE BIT. 1139 00:28:23,601 --> 00:28:25,503 UM, AND IT'S CRITICAL 1140 00:28:25,503 --> 00:28:27,005 THAT YOU SUPPORT YOUR PEOPLE. 1141 00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:28,573 MY BIG THING IS, YOU KNOW, 1142 00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:30,909 I ALWAYS, UH, PRAISE IN PUBLIC 1143 00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,043 AND SCOLD IN PRIVATE 1144 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:32,877 IS, UH, ONE OF 1145 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:33,878 THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. 1146 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,647 AND I'D NEVER ACCEPT 1147 00:28:35,647 --> 00:28:37,449 THE-THE GLORY, PER SE, 1148 00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:39,317 BUT I ALWAYS ACCEPT THE BLAME, 1149 00:28:39,317 --> 00:28:41,052 OKAY, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG. 1150 00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:41,786 IF IT'S SOMETHING 1151 00:28:41,786 --> 00:28:42,787 REALLY WELL DONE, 1152 00:28:42,787 --> 00:28:44,022 THE TEAM DID IT, 1153 00:28:44,022 --> 00:28:44,689 AND I'M JUST PROUD 1154 00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:45,890 TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM. 1155 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:46,991 IF SOMETHIN' GOES WRONG, 1156 00:28:46,991 --> 00:28:48,460 IT'S MY PROBLEM, MY FAULT, 1157 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:49,527 AND I'LL TAKE OF 1158 00:28:49,527 --> 00:28:50,995 THE PEOPLE RELIGIOUSLY. 1159 00:28:50,995 --> 00:28:51,663 I'LL DEFEND THEM 1160 00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:52,997 TO MY DYING DAY. 1161 00:28:52,997 --> 00:28:54,399 AND I THINK THAT 1162 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,600 REALLY BUILDS THE TRUST, 1163 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,569 AND IT BUILDS THE RESPECT IN-- 1164 00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:58,870 OF YOUR LEADERSHIP SKILLS, 1165 00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:59,938 AND PEOPLE WILL GO 1166 00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:00,839 TO THE MAT FOR YOU. 1167 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:01,840 REALLY, THEY DO. 1168 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,974 AND I THINK THAT'S HOW 1169 00:29:02,974 --> 00:29:04,642 WE HAVE SUCH A SUCCESSFUL AGENCY 1170 00:29:04,642 --> 00:29:06,511 AND SUCH A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, 1171 00:29:06,511 --> 00:29:07,378 IN MY CASE. 1172 00:29:07,378 --> 00:29:08,513 SO WOODROW, I'LL GIVE YOU 1173 00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:09,514 A CHANCE TO ADD 1174 00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:10,348 ANYTHING ONTO THAT 1175 00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:11,683 THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY. 1176 00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:13,751 >> I'LL JUST-JUST BRIEFLY, 1177 00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:16,454 UM, THE PEOPLE ARE 1178 00:29:16,454 --> 00:29:18,623 ALWAYS WATCHING YOU. 1179 00:29:18,623 --> 00:29:19,657 >> MMM. 1180 00:29:19,657 --> 00:29:20,725 WELL SAID. 1181 00:29:20,725 --> 00:29:21,926 >> SO HOLD YOURSELF 1182 00:29:21,926 --> 00:29:23,194 ACCOUNTABLE, 1183 00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:24,662 AND THINGS THAT YOU SAY 1184 00:29:24,662 --> 00:29:25,797 YOU GONNA DO, 1185 00:29:25,797 --> 00:29:27,632 GO OUT AND, UM-- 1186 00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:29,300 AND-AND DO THOSE THINGS. 1187 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:31,136 AND-AND DON'T GO ASKING 1188 00:29:31,136 --> 00:29:32,770 YOUR WORKFORCE TO DO SOMETHING 1189 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:33,938 THAT YOU YOURSELF 1190 00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:34,939 WOULD NOT DO. 1191 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:37,175 >> WELL SAID. 1192 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:40,111 >> VERY WELL SAID. 1193 00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:40,812 SOMETIMES THAT DRIVES 1194 00:29:40,812 --> 00:29:42,013 MY TEAM CRAZY, THOUGH, 1195 00:29:42,013 --> 00:29:42,780 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, 1196 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:44,082 I DO A LOT OF OUTREACH, 1197 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:44,949 AND SOMETIMES THERE'S 1198 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:46,217 A LOT OF LAST MINUTE SETUP 1199 00:29:46,217 --> 00:29:47,252 THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. 1200 00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:48,052 >> YEAH. 1201 00:29:48,052 --> 00:29:48,820 >> CHECKING IN, 1202 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:49,754 REGISTRATION PEOPLE, 1203 00:29:49,754 --> 00:29:50,455 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 1204 00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:51,422 2,000 PEOPLE AT THE DOOR, 1205 00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:52,557 SO I DROP WHAT I'M DOING, 1206 00:29:52,557 --> 00:29:53,591 AND I START HELPING THEM 1207 00:29:53,591 --> 00:29:54,526 TO REGISTER PEOPLE, 1208 00:29:54,526 --> 00:29:55,627 AND THEY GO, "NO, NO, NO, 1209 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:56,394 YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. 1210 00:29:56,394 --> 00:29:57,228 YOU'RE THE AA." 1211 00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:58,396 I GO, "I'M PART OF THE TEAM. 1212 00:29:58,396 --> 00:29:59,764 THE TEAM NEEDS TO GET IT DONE. 1213 00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:00,732 LET'S GET IT DONE." 1214 00:30:00,732 --> 00:30:01,566 YOU KNOW? 1215 00:30:01,566 --> 00:30:02,433 >> YEP. 1216 00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:03,134 >> SO, I-I-I SOMETIMES 1217 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:03,935 GET YELLED AT FOR IT, 1218 00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:04,969 BUT OTHER TIMES, HEY, 1219 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:05,904 I'M STILL PART OF THE TEAM. 1220 00:30:05,904 --> 00:30:06,738 I GOTTA GET IT DONE. 1221 00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:07,438 >> YEAH. 1222 00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:08,173 >> SO, BRENDA, 1223 00:30:08,173 --> 00:30:09,140 WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY? 1224 00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:10,675 >> I WOULD SAY ONE OF 1225 00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:12,544 THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS 1226 00:30:12,544 --> 00:30:15,146 IS INSPIRING YOUR TEAM. 1227 00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:16,714 UM, AND AGAIN, 1228 00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:19,551 AS-AS HAS BEEN SAID, UM, 1229 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:21,352 YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE 1230 00:30:21,352 --> 00:30:23,354 THAT YOUR PEOPLE KNOW 1231 00:30:23,354 --> 00:30:24,789 THAT YOU'RE BEHIND THEM. 1232 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:26,491 THE OTHER THING 1233 00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:28,026 I WOULD SAY IS THAT 1234 00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:30,128 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT, 1235 00:30:30,128 --> 00:30:33,198 UM, YOU MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. 1236 00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:35,667 UM, OFTENTIMES THE THINGS 1237 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,268 THAT YOU WANNA DO, 1238 00:30:37,268 --> 00:30:39,204 UH, TAKE TIME. 1239 00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:41,706 AND SO YOU HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC, 1240 00:30:41,706 --> 00:30:43,908 UM, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE 1241 00:30:43,908 --> 00:30:45,810 THAT YOUR TEAM UNDERSTANDS 1242 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:48,713 THAT, UH, WHATEVER YOU DO, 1243 00:30:48,713 --> 00:30:50,148 IT HAS TO BE DONE 1244 00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:51,683 IN EXCELLENCE. 1245 00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:54,452 AND SO IT'S MORE IMPORTANT 1246 00:30:54,452 --> 00:30:55,920 THAT YOU PLAN 1247 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,089 AND THAT YOU BE STRATEGIC, 1248 00:30:58,089 --> 00:31:00,458 AND THEN WHEN YOU EXECUTE, 1249 00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:02,393 UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING 1250 00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:03,761 IS PUTTING FORTH 1251 00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:06,364 PROGRAMS OR PROJECTS 1252 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,800 THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL 1253 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,369 THAT YOU'RE SEEKING TO ADDRESS. 1254 00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:13,438 UM, AND I THINK 1255 00:31:13,438 --> 00:31:17,141 IF EMPLOYEES SEE THAT 1256 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,544 THAT'S A RECIPE FOR SUCCESS, 1257 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:22,247 IT INSPIRES THEM TO DO THINGS 1258 00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:23,848 IN THE FUTURE 1259 00:31:23,848 --> 00:31:26,517 IN THE SAME MANNER. 1260 00:31:26,517 --> 00:31:27,819 >> WELL SAID. 1261 00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:29,687 THAT'S, UH-- THAT'S SOMETHING 1262 00:31:29,687 --> 00:31:30,588 I CAN TAKE TO SCHOOL, 1263 00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:31,556 THAT'S FOR SURE. 1264 00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,524 THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, 1265 00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:35,493 "WHAT PREPARATION OR ADVICE 1266 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:36,461 WOULD YOU GIVE TO THOSE 1267 00:31:36,461 --> 00:31:38,263 WHO ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE 1268 00:31:38,263 --> 00:31:39,864 A LEADERSHIP ROLE AT NASA?" 1269 00:31:39,864 --> 00:31:40,632 SO, WITH THAT, 1270 00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:41,699 I'LL GO WITH WOODROW. 1271 00:31:41,699 --> 00:31:42,900 NOW, WOODROW, WOULD YOU LIKE 1272 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,168 TO SAY ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? 1273 00:31:44,168 --> 00:31:44,969 >> THE NASA WORKFORCE 1274 00:31:44,969 --> 00:31:46,170 IS SPECIAL. 1275 00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:48,973 UH, I USED TO SAY EVERY DAY 1276 00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:49,974 I GET TO GO TO WORK 1277 00:31:49,974 --> 00:31:51,643 WITH SOME OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE 1278 00:31:51,643 --> 00:31:53,111 IN THE-IN THE WORLD. 1279 00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:54,879 UH, AND-AND WHAT COMES 1280 00:31:54,879 --> 00:31:57,115 WITH THAT IS, UM, 1281 00:31:57,115 --> 00:31:59,851 THE WORKFORCE WANTS TO MAKE SURE 1282 00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,219 YOU HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE. 1283 00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:02,353 SO THERE'S MORE RESPECT 1284 00:32:02,353 --> 00:32:03,254 FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE 1285 00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:06,391 THAN THERE IS SIMPLY, UH, 1286 00:32:06,391 --> 00:32:08,192 FOR, UM, A POSITION 1287 00:32:08,192 --> 00:32:10,028 THAT YOU-THAT YOU HOLD. 1288 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,896 UH, SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE 1289 00:32:11,896 --> 00:32:12,764 WHO ARE-- YOU KNOW, 1290 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:13,865 WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE UP, 1291 00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:15,166 YOU KNOW, SPEND ENOUGH TIME 1292 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:17,568 TO, UM, UH, 1293 00:32:17,568 --> 00:32:18,603 HAVE SOME ACHIEVEMENTS, 1294 00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:20,638 BUILD A REPUTATION, UH-- 1295 00:32:20,638 --> 00:32:22,573 AS, UM, BRENDA JUST SAID, 1296 00:32:22,573 --> 00:32:23,775 BUILD A REPUTATION 1297 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,777 FOR EXCELLENCE IN SOME FIELD 1298 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:27,445 INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, 1299 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:28,613 SPENDING A FEW MONTHS HERE, 1300 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:29,747 A FEW MONTHS THERE, YOU KNOW, 1301 00:32:29,747 --> 00:32:30,682 TRYING TO JUMP AROUND 1302 00:32:30,682 --> 00:32:33,184 TO-TO MOVE QUICKLY UP THE, UH-- 1303 00:32:33,184 --> 00:32:34,419 THE ORGANIZATIONAL LADDER. 1304 00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:36,120 BECAUSE IT, UH, SOME POINT, 1305 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,822 UH, UH, YOU'LL-- 1306 00:32:37,822 --> 00:32:38,756 YOU'LL BE BLOCKED. 1307 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:40,625 AND, UH-- AND TAKE ADVANTAGE 1308 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,226 OF THE EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP 1309 00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:43,294 DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS 1310 00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,830 THAT, UH-- THAT THE AGENCY HAS. 1311 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:47,265 THERE'S-THERE'S PLENTY OF THOSE. 1312 00:32:47,265 --> 00:32:49,133 AND-AND WHAT I ALWAYS DO, 1313 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:49,967 WHAT I LOOK AT, 1314 00:32:49,967 --> 00:32:50,968 I WILL LOOK AT 1315 00:32:50,968 --> 00:32:52,203 THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS 1316 00:32:52,203 --> 00:32:53,471 WE WOULD-WE WOULD HAVE, 1317 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:54,972 AND I WOULD SAY, "OKAY, 1318 00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:56,007 NOW, WHO'S BEEN 1319 00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:57,008 TO THESE PROGRAMS?" 1320 00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:57,709 AND I WOULD LOOK 1321 00:32:57,709 --> 00:32:59,010 AND FIND OUT WHO WENT-- 1322 00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:00,011 WHO WENT THE FURTHEST. 1323 00:33:00,011 --> 00:33:01,145 AND I'D SAY, "YEAH, THAT'S 1324 00:33:01,145 --> 00:33:02,380 THE PROGRAM I WANNA GO TO, 1325 00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:03,614 BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE 1326 00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:05,717 WENT TO THIS PROGRAM, AND-- 1327 00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:06,951 AND THEY WENT THE FURTHEST." 1328 00:33:06,951 --> 00:33:08,553 AND-AND ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS 1329 00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:09,520 ABOUT THE-- 1330 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,255 THOSE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS 1331 00:33:11,255 --> 00:33:13,624 IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL GO 1332 00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:14,625 AND THEY WILL FIND OUT, 1333 00:33:14,625 --> 00:33:16,227 "WELL, I DON'T WANNA BE 1334 00:33:16,227 --> 00:33:17,662 IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION." 1335 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:19,497 AND-AND THAT'S A-- 1336 00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:21,632 THAT'S A POSITIVE RESULT, TOO, 1337 00:33:21,632 --> 00:33:22,800 BECAUSE WE DON'T 1338 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,935 WANNA GO AROUND, 1339 00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:25,136 TAKE OUR BEST ENGINEERS, 1340 00:33:25,136 --> 00:33:26,137 OUR BEST SCIENTISTS, 1341 00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:27,805 OUR BEST RESEARCHERS 1342 00:33:27,805 --> 00:33:28,673 AND TURN THEM 1343 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:29,874 INTO OUR WORST LEADERS. 1344 00:33:29,874 --> 00:33:31,609 SO, UH, WE-WE HAVE 1345 00:33:31,609 --> 00:33:33,044 THE SENIOR TECHNOLOGISTS 1346 00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:34,245 AND THE SENIOR LEADERS PRO-- 1347 00:33:34,245 --> 00:33:36,314 UH, UH, CAREER TRACK 1348 00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:37,548 FOR THOSE PEOPLE 1349 00:33:37,548 --> 00:33:38,783 WHO DON'T WANNA BE LEADERS. 1350 00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:40,818 SO, UH, UM, BUILD 1351 00:33:40,818 --> 00:33:41,919 SOME EXCELLENCE, 1352 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,122 UH, EXPLORE THE LEADERSHIP 1353 00:33:44,122 --> 00:33:45,356 DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, 1354 00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:47,225 AND THEN FIND OUT IF, UH, 1355 00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:49,427 LEADERSHIP TRULY IS, UM, 1356 00:33:49,427 --> 00:33:51,129 THE-THE RIGHT CAREER PATH 1357 00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:52,630 FOR YOURSELF. 1358 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:54,098 >> WELL SAID WITH THAT. 1359 00:33:54,098 --> 00:33:55,600 BECAUSE WE FIND THAT A LOT, 1360 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,334 ESPECIALLY IN 1361 00:33:56,334 --> 00:33:57,135 TECHNICAL PEOPLE. 1362 00:33:57,135 --> 00:33:58,836 THEY ARE GOOD MANAGERS, 1363 00:33:58,836 --> 00:33:59,537 BUT THEY'RE NOT 1364 00:33:59,537 --> 00:34:01,139 GOOD LEADERS SOMETIMES, 1365 00:34:01,139 --> 00:34:01,773 'CAUSE THEY HAVE 1366 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:02,774 DIFFERENT SKILL SETS. 1367 00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:03,775 AND WE LOVE 'EM 1368 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:05,143 AS THEIR TECHNICAL MANAGEMENT, 1369 00:34:05,143 --> 00:34:06,177 BECAUSE THEY PUT US 1370 00:34:06,177 --> 00:34:08,112 ON THE MOON AND MARS AND BEYOND. 1371 00:34:08,112 --> 00:34:09,414 BUT LEADERSHIP THERE-- 1372 00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:11,449 MIGHT NOT BE THERE SOMETIMES. 1373 00:34:11,449 --> 00:34:12,550 SO, THAT'S A GOOD LESSON 1374 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:13,451 TO LEARN. 1375 00:34:13,451 --> 00:34:14,385 UM, BRENDA, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING 1376 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,053 THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? 1377 00:34:16,053 --> 00:34:17,255 >> YES, I DO. 1378 00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:20,057 UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, 1379 00:34:20,057 --> 00:34:22,427 UM, IT'S IMPORTANT 1380 00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:25,263 THAT YOU OBSERVE LEADERSHIP. 1381 00:34:25,263 --> 00:34:28,065 UM, IF YOU CAN FIND ONE 1382 00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:29,000 OR TWO PEOPLE 1383 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,102 THAT YOU CAN OBSERVE, UM, 1384 00:34:31,102 --> 00:34:33,237 SOMETIMES IT GIVES YOU 1385 00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:35,006 AN INSIGHT INTO 1386 00:34:35,006 --> 00:34:36,941 HOW YOU SHOULD OPERATE. 1387 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:38,376 UM, IT'S LOOKING 1388 00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:40,945 AT HOW THEY OPERATE 1389 00:34:40,945 --> 00:34:43,448 IN ADVERSE CIRCUMSTANCES 1390 00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:45,216 AS WELL AS IN THOSE 1391 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,952 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE GOOD. 1392 00:34:47,952 --> 00:34:50,388 UM, IT HELPS YOU TO GAIN 1393 00:34:50,388 --> 00:34:53,124 A PERSPECTIVE THAT, UM, 1394 00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:56,794 LEADERSHIP IS NOT EASY. 1395 00:34:56,794 --> 00:34:58,830 UM, THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE 1396 00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:00,198 DIFFICULT TIMES. 1397 00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:01,566 YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE 1398 00:35:01,566 --> 00:35:03,267 DIFFICULT DECISIONS. 1399 00:35:03,267 --> 00:35:05,503 AND HOW DO YOU 1400 00:35:05,503 --> 00:35:07,338 WEATHER THOSE STORMS? 1401 00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:08,973 UM, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT 1402 00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:11,242 IN LOOKING AT HOW 1403 00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:14,512 OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE GAINED, 1404 00:35:14,512 --> 00:35:16,848 UH, LEADERSHIP ROLES 1405 00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:18,449 HAVE HANDLED THOSE KINDS 1406 00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:20,618 OF SITUATIONS. 1407 00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:22,720 >> THAT IS, UH, GREAT, 1408 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,155 BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, 1409 00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:24,822 I'VE HAD A LOT 1410 00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:25,656 OF THOSE HARD DAYS. 1411 00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:27,058 [ CHUCKLING ] 1412 00:35:27,058 --> 00:35:28,960 AND, UH, YOU DO HAVE TO LEARN 1413 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,127 A LOT OF LESSONS FROM IT, 1414 00:35:30,127 --> 00:35:31,362 THAT'S TRUE. 1415 00:35:31,362 --> 00:35:32,630 OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO TO A-- 1416 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:33,731 >> GLENN, CAN I-- 1417 00:35:33,731 --> 00:35:34,565 CAN I ADD SOMETHING 1418 00:35:34,565 --> 00:35:35,266 TO THAT ONE? 1419 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:36,033 >> PLEASE. 1420 00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:36,934 >> BECAUSE I COMPLETELY AGREE 1421 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:39,670 WITH THE PREVIOUS RESPONSES. 1422 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:41,138 UH, THE ONE THING 1423 00:35:41,138 --> 00:35:42,640 THAT I WOULD WANT TO ADD, 1424 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,574 I KNOW AT OUR CENTER 1425 00:35:43,574 --> 00:35:45,176 WE DO HAVE A FORMAL 1426 00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:46,244 MENTORING PROGRAM. 1427 00:35:46,244 --> 00:35:48,246 AND, UH, EVEN IF YOU DON'T 1428 00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:49,914 HAVE A FORMAL MENTORING PROGRAM, 1429 00:35:49,914 --> 00:35:51,983 I ENCOURAGE, UH, FOLKS 1430 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,218 TO GET A MENTOR, YOU KNOW, 1431 00:35:54,218 --> 00:35:55,286 SOMEBODY THAT YOU 1432 00:35:55,286 --> 00:35:56,988 CAN LEARN FROM, YOU KNOW, 1433 00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,656 WHERE YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP 1434 00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:00,525 WITH THIS PERSON AS HELPING YOU, 1435 00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:02,293 GIVING YOU ADVICE AND GUIDANCE, 1436 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:03,895 AND BEING WILLING 1437 00:36:03,895 --> 00:36:05,429 TO LISTEN TO THAT ADVICE. 1438 00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:07,298 UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT 1439 00:36:07,298 --> 00:36:08,399 THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, 1440 00:36:08,399 --> 00:36:10,134 ESPECIALLY TO HELP WITH 1441 00:36:10,134 --> 00:36:11,369 THE EARLY FOLKS 1442 00:36:11,369 --> 00:36:12,203 THAT ARE COMING IN, 1443 00:36:12,203 --> 00:36:13,371 IF YOU'RE EARLY IN YOUR CAREER, 1444 00:36:13,371 --> 00:36:14,405 TO HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND 1445 00:36:14,405 --> 00:36:15,873 THE CULTURE OF THE AGENCY, 1446 00:36:15,873 --> 00:36:17,608 OF THE CENTER WHERE YOU ARE. 1447 00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:19,443 UH, BUT TO-TO HAVE A MENTOR. 1448 00:36:19,443 --> 00:36:21,379 >> THAT IS WELL SAID. 1449 00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:22,747 AND I DO MENTOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 1450 00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:24,148 AND THE, YOU KNOW, 1451 00:36:24,148 --> 00:36:25,383 CLOUD WITH THAT, 1452 00:36:25,383 --> 00:36:26,784 I ALSO ASK THEM 1453 00:36:26,784 --> 00:36:28,586 TO GET ANOTHER MENTOR, 1454 00:36:28,586 --> 00:36:29,387 SOMEONE THAT HAS 1455 00:36:29,387 --> 00:36:31,055 A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW OF ME, 1456 00:36:31,055 --> 00:36:32,657 SO THAT THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE 1457 00:36:32,657 --> 00:36:34,492 DIVERSE, UM, WAYS THAT 1458 00:36:34,492 --> 00:36:35,993 PEOPLE ARE BOTH SUCCESSFUL. 1459 00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:37,762 SO-- 'CAUSE MY STYLE 1460 00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:39,196 MIGHT NOT MATCH THEM AS WELL, 1461 00:36:39,196 --> 00:36:40,131 BUT I CAN STILL GIVE THEM 1462 00:36:40,131 --> 00:36:41,666 GOOD LEADERSHIP AND ADVICE. 1463 00:36:41,666 --> 00:36:42,633 AND SO EVERYBODY ELSE 1464 00:36:42,633 --> 00:36:43,801 CAN COMPLEMENT THAT. 1465 00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:45,002 AND THE-THE SYNERGY 1466 00:36:45,002 --> 00:36:45,870 BETWEEN THE TWO OF US 1467 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,204 MIGHT MAKE THAT PERSON 1468 00:36:47,204 --> 00:36:47,939 A WHOLE LOT BETTER 1469 00:36:47,939 --> 00:36:49,173 THAN JUST ONE PERSPECTIVE. 1470 00:36:49,173 --> 00:36:49,874 SO, THAT'S 1471 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:51,242 A VERY GOOD POINT, TOO. 1472 00:36:51,242 --> 00:36:52,710 OKAY, SO WE'LL TAKE OUR, 1473 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,545 UM, LAST VIDEO QUESTION. 1474 00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:55,746 UH, THE QUESTION 1475 00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:57,415 IS FROM PHILLIP HARGROVE. 1476 00:36:57,415 --> 00:36:59,817 PHILLIP IS A LAUNCH VEHICLE 1477 00:36:59,817 --> 00:37:01,953 TRAJECTORY ANALYSIS. 1478 00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,488 >> WHAT RESOURCES ARE 1479 00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:05,756 AVAILABLE TO HELP FAMILIES 1480 00:37:05,756 --> 00:37:07,124 AND EDUCATORS LEARN ABOUT 1481 00:37:07,124 --> 00:37:08,292 THE WAYS THAT BLACK PEOPLE 1482 00:37:08,292 --> 00:37:09,460 HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PART 1483 00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,062 OF THE NASA STORY? 1484 00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,030 >> OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, 1485 00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:13,931 THAT'S A REALLY 1486 00:37:13,931 --> 00:37:15,833 INTERESTING, UH, QUESTION. 1487 00:37:15,833 --> 00:37:17,635 YOU KNOW, FOR ME, 1488 00:37:17,635 --> 00:37:19,203 WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FACT 1489 00:37:19,203 --> 00:37:20,771 THAT, YOU KNOW, "HIDDEN FIGURES" 1490 00:37:20,771 --> 00:37:22,006 CAME OUT AS A MOVIE 1491 00:37:22,006 --> 00:37:23,274 AND, FOR US 1492 00:37:23,274 --> 00:37:24,775 IN THE NASA WORKFORCE, 1493 00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:27,178 WE WERE NOT EVEN AWARE. 1494 00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:28,746 AND SO I THINK IT WAS 1495 00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:31,449 REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT 1496 00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,416 THAT STORY HAD NOT 1497 00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:33,784 BEEN TOLD, RIGHT? 1498 00:37:33,784 --> 00:37:35,553 BECAUSE FOR, UM-- 1499 00:37:35,553 --> 00:37:36,587 AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, 1500 00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:38,255 WHEN I SAW THAT MOVIE, 1501 00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:40,257 I WAS LIKE, "OH, WOW!" 1502 00:37:40,257 --> 00:37:42,426 YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THESE WOMEN 1503 00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:44,061 THAT HAD GONE THROUGH THIS, 1504 00:37:44,061 --> 00:37:45,529 YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS 1505 00:37:45,529 --> 00:37:46,931 BEFORE I WAS GOING THROUGH 1506 00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:48,332 THESE SAME THINGS. 1507 00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:49,266 AND, YOU KNOW, 1508 00:37:49,266 --> 00:37:51,002 HAD I MAYBE KNOWN THAT, 1509 00:37:51,002 --> 00:37:52,603 MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE LET ME KNOW, 1510 00:37:52,603 --> 00:37:53,971 HEY, THEY DID IT, 1511 00:37:53,971 --> 00:37:55,239 SO YOU CAN DO IT. 1512 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,107 SO, YOU KNOW, 1513 00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:58,109 JUST HAVING THAT RESOURCE 1514 00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:59,243 OF KNOWING ABOUT IT, 1515 00:37:59,243 --> 00:38:00,711 IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. 1516 00:38:00,711 --> 00:38:01,779 UH, I, YOU KNOW, 1517 00:38:01,779 --> 00:38:03,047 KNOW THAT WE HAVE, 1518 00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:04,949 UH, HISTORY PROJECTS NOW, 1519 00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:06,684 AND, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE 1520 00:38:06,684 --> 00:38:08,319 ALL OF YOU TO BE A PART OF THAT. 1521 00:38:08,319 --> 00:38:09,787 BUT WHERE WE CAN SHARE 1522 00:38:09,787 --> 00:38:10,755 THOSE STORIES. 1523 00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:12,023 I LIKE CLAYTON'S, UH, STATEMENT 1524 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:13,491 EARLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 1525 00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:14,925 SHARING AND LETTING OTHERS 1526 00:38:14,925 --> 00:38:15,926 KNOW YOUR STORY 1527 00:38:15,926 --> 00:38:16,894 SO THAT THEY, TOO, 1528 00:38:16,894 --> 00:38:17,995 CAN KNOW THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE. 1529 00:38:17,995 --> 00:38:20,865 YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR ME, 1530 00:38:20,865 --> 00:38:21,999 THOSE RESOURCES 1531 00:38:21,999 --> 00:38:23,000 WEREN'T AVAILABLE, 1532 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,001 BUT I AM GLAD NOW 1533 00:38:24,001 --> 00:38:26,270 THAT THE STORIES ARE BEING TOLD. 1534 00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:27,371 >> VERY WELL SAID. 1535 00:38:27,371 --> 00:38:28,639 NOW, WOODROW, WE'RE STARTING 1536 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:29,540 TO RUN SHORT ON TIME, 1537 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:31,776 SO YOUR, UH, THOUGHT OF THAT. 1538 00:38:31,776 --> 00:38:33,411 >> SO-SO, BE BRIEF. 1539 00:38:33,411 --> 00:38:34,478 [ LAUGHING ] 1540 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:35,980 >> SEE, THAT'S WHY 1541 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,682 YOU'RE A GOOD LEADER. 1542 00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:38,783 >> YOU KNOW, V-VANESSA, 1543 00:38:38,783 --> 00:38:39,717 YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT 1544 00:38:39,717 --> 00:38:40,751 THE "HIDDEN FIGURES," 1545 00:38:40,751 --> 00:38:41,952 AND SOME YEARS AGO, 1546 00:38:41,952 --> 00:38:43,087 NOT TOO LONG AFTER I STARTED 1547 00:38:43,087 --> 00:38:44,722 AT LANGLEY, I DID 1548 00:38:44,722 --> 00:38:46,057 A BLACK HISTORY MONTH SPEECH, 1549 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:47,425 UH, AT FANNIE MAE. 1550 00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:49,160 AND THEY WANTED ME TO TALK 1551 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,928 ABOUT, UM, AFRICAN AMERICANS 1552 00:38:50,928 --> 00:38:51,996 IN THE SPACE PROGRAM. 1553 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,464 SO I ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE 1554 00:38:53,464 --> 00:38:55,900 TO INTERVIEW, UM, MARY JACKSON 1555 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,335 AND, UM, KATHERINE JOHNSON 1556 00:38:58,335 --> 00:39:00,304 BECAUSE, UM, THEY BROUGHT 1557 00:39:00,304 --> 00:39:02,239 MY-MY WIFE INTO, UH, 1558 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,508 THE AKA SORORITY WHEN, UH-- 1559 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:05,976 WHEN WE WERE-- WE WERE THERE. 1560 00:39:05,976 --> 00:39:07,945 AND, UH-- AND MARY TOLD ME 1561 00:39:07,945 --> 00:39:08,746 ABOUT HAVIN' TO GO 1562 00:39:08,746 --> 00:39:10,414 TO OTHER BUILDINGS, UH, 1563 00:39:10,414 --> 00:39:12,149 TO-TO GO TO THE BATHROOM 1564 00:39:12,149 --> 00:39:14,285 AND-AND-AND THE STRUGGLES. 1565 00:39:14,285 --> 00:39:15,019 AND SO THEY WERE, 1566 00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:16,654 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE MARY, 1567 00:39:16,654 --> 00:39:17,788 KATHERINE, 1568 00:39:17,788 --> 00:39:19,423 UH, CHRISTINE DARDEN, 1569 00:39:19,423 --> 00:39:20,991 [ INDISTINCT ] 1570 00:39:20,991 --> 00:39:22,226 UH, BOB LEE, 1571 00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:23,928 WHOM I PLAYED BASKETBALL AGAINST 1572 00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:25,362 AT LANGLEY. 1573 00:39:25,362 --> 00:39:27,231 UM, SO I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK 1574 00:39:27,231 --> 00:39:28,532 TO A LOT OF WHAT I WOULD CALL 1575 00:39:28,532 --> 00:39:29,934 THE MORE SENIOR FOLKS, 1576 00:39:29,934 --> 00:39:30,668 YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST 1577 00:39:30,668 --> 00:39:31,569 GOT TO LANGLEY. 1578 00:39:31,569 --> 00:39:32,737 AND THEN THERE'S A BOOK 1579 00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:34,405 THAT I-- THAT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND 1580 00:39:34,405 --> 00:39:35,973 THAT "WE COULD NOT FAIL." 1581 00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:36,507 AND IT'S ABOUT 1582 00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:38,275 THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICANS 1583 00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:40,344 IN THE, UH, SPACE PROGRAM. 1584 00:39:40,344 --> 00:39:42,813 AND, UH, HOW THE SPACE PROGRAM 1585 00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:43,581 WAS SET UP, 1586 00:39:43,581 --> 00:39:44,915 THE ROLE AFRICAN AMERICANS HAD, 1587 00:39:44,915 --> 00:39:46,250 AND JUST INTERESTING STORIES 1588 00:39:46,250 --> 00:39:47,752 ABOUT, UH, FOLKS 1589 00:39:47,752 --> 00:39:48,686 AT SOME OF THE CENTERS 1590 00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:49,553 IN-IN THE SOUTH 1591 00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:52,056 WHO, UH, COULDN'T LIVE 1592 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:52,857 NEAR THE CENTER 1593 00:39:52,857 --> 00:39:54,325 FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, 1594 00:39:54,325 --> 00:39:55,326 BUT HAD TO DRIVE 1595 00:39:55,326 --> 00:39:56,560 THROUGH KLAN TERRITORY 1596 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,763 TO GET BACK AND FORTH TO WORK. 1597 00:39:58,763 --> 00:40:01,465 UH, SO, UM, I WOULD HIGHLY 1598 00:40:01,465 --> 00:40:02,800 RECOMMEND, UH, THAT BOOK. 1599 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,235 AND SO I-I'LL JUST 1600 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:05,236 CUT IT RIGHT THERE 1601 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:06,771 SINCE WE'RE SHORT ON TIME. 1602 00:40:06,771 --> 00:40:07,538 >> OKAY, THAT WAS, 1603 00:40:07,538 --> 00:40:08,939 UH, INTERESTING. 1604 00:40:08,939 --> 00:40:10,207 I GOT TO ACTUALLY GO 1605 00:40:10,207 --> 00:40:11,275 TO THE PREMIERE 1606 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:12,777 OF, UH, "HIDDEN FIGURES" WITH, 1607 00:40:12,777 --> 00:40:14,211 UH, ALL THE NASA LEADERSHIP 1608 00:40:14,211 --> 00:40:15,579 WHEN I WAS AT THE, UH, 1609 00:40:15,579 --> 00:40:16,781 NATIONAL-- 1610 00:40:16,781 --> 00:40:18,983 WHAT IS THE MUSEUM UP IN DC. 1611 00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:20,951 AND IT WAS QUITE EYE-OPENING. 1612 00:40:20,951 --> 00:40:21,986 MY WIFE AND I WERE THERE, 1613 00:40:21,986 --> 00:40:22,853 AND I WAS, LIKE, 1614 00:40:22,853 --> 00:40:24,155 ALMOST IN SHOCK 1615 00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:25,089 WATCHIN' THAT MOVIE. 1616 00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:26,924 SO, IT WAS A GOOD EDUCATION. 1617 00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:28,359 A VERY GOOD EDUCATION. 1618 00:40:28,359 --> 00:40:29,960 OKAY, SO IN WRAPPING THIS UP, 1619 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,529 UM, IF YOU CAN 1620 00:40:31,529 --> 00:40:32,830 IN ABOUT A MINUTE OR LESS, 1621 00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:33,798 I'M GONNA EACH-- 1622 00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:34,765 ASK EACH ONE OF YOU 1623 00:40:34,765 --> 00:40:36,367 IN THE SAME ORDER THAT I DID 1624 00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:38,135 AT THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, 1625 00:40:38,135 --> 00:40:39,436 WHY IS IT IMPORTANT 1626 00:40:39,436 --> 00:40:40,771 TO HAVE AFRICAN AMERICAN 1627 00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:42,173 LEADERSHIP AT NASA? 1628 00:40:42,173 --> 00:40:43,808 SO, IF YOU CAN IN A MINUTE 1629 00:40:43,808 --> 00:40:44,909 OR LESS, VANESSA, 1630 00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:46,010 I'LL OPEN UP WITH YOU 1631 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:47,878 AS I DID AT THE BEGINNING. 1632 00:40:47,878 --> 00:40:50,514 >> SO, I DO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, 1633 00:40:50,514 --> 00:40:53,217 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION 1634 00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:55,553 IS TIED TO INNOVATION, RIGHT? 1635 00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:59,023 UM, SO BEING ABLE 1636 00:40:59,023 --> 00:41:00,524 TO COME TO WORK AND BRING 1637 00:41:00,524 --> 00:41:01,892 YOUR WHOLE SELF TO WORK 1638 00:41:01,892 --> 00:41:03,327 AND FEEL THAT YOU ARE INCLUDED 1639 00:41:03,327 --> 00:41:04,862 AND THAT YOU'RE ABLE 1640 00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:07,498 TO CONTRIBUTE, UM, ALLOWS YOU 1641 00:41:07,498 --> 00:41:09,800 TO ADD TO THE RICHNESS 1642 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,268 OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. 1643 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:13,904 AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR, 1644 00:41:13,904 --> 00:41:15,639 UH, PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK 1645 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:16,841 AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 1646 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,742 UH, I'VE HAD, UH, PEOPLE, 1647 00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:20,711 YOU KNOW, SAY TO ME, YOU KNOW, 1648 00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:22,580 "I DON'T SEE ANYBODY--" 1649 00:41:22,580 --> 00:41:24,181 YOU KNOW, THIS WAS BEFORE WE HAD 1650 00:41:24,181 --> 00:41:25,950 AFRICAN AMERICANS IN LEADERSHIP. 1651 00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:27,685 "I DON'T SEE ANYBODY 1652 00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:28,752 THAT LOOKS LIKE ME 1653 00:41:28,752 --> 00:41:30,087 THAT'S IN LEADERSHIP. 1654 00:41:30,087 --> 00:41:31,355 WHY SHOULD I STAY HERE? 1655 00:41:31,355 --> 00:41:33,057 WHAT'S THE PATH FOR ME?" 1656 00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:34,558 AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, 1657 00:41:34,558 --> 00:41:37,228 HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING THAT, 1658 00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,363 YES, THERE IS A PATH FOR YOU 1659 00:41:39,363 --> 00:41:41,031 IF THIS IS YOUR-- IF THAT'S 1660 00:41:41,031 --> 00:41:42,366 YOUR CHOICE, YOUR DESIRE. 1661 00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:43,734 UH, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT 1662 00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:45,035 FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COME 1663 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:46,537 AND BE OUR WHOLE SELVES 1664 00:41:46,537 --> 00:41:47,471 TO CONTRIBUTE, 1665 00:41:47,471 --> 00:41:49,139 HAVE DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES, 1666 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:51,008 UM, AS THIS PANEL. 1667 00:41:51,008 --> 00:41:51,709 YOU KNOW, IT'S-- 1668 00:41:51,709 --> 00:41:52,776 IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL PANEL 1669 00:41:52,776 --> 00:41:53,978 WITH VERY DIVERSE IDEAS. 1670 00:41:53,978 --> 00:41:55,546 BUT, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE 1671 00:41:55,546 --> 00:41:56,714 ALL TO COME TO WORK 1672 00:41:56,714 --> 00:41:58,215 AND BE [ INDISTINCT ] 1673 00:41:58,215 --> 00:42:00,351 AND BE FULLY APPRECIATED. 1674 00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:02,353 >> HMM, THAT WAS WELL SAID, 1675 00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:03,287 WELL ARTICULATED. 1676 00:42:03,287 --> 00:42:05,589 OKAY, MY FRIEND MR. WOODROW. 1677 00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:07,892 WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? 1678 00:42:07,892 --> 00:42:08,559 >> WELL, I WOULD 1679 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:09,760 JUST BRIEFLY SAY, YOU KNOW, 1680 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,928 IT'S BEEN SHOWN 1681 00:42:10,928 --> 00:42:12,496 THAT DIVERSE TEAMS, UM, 1682 00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:14,098 GIVE BETTER RESULTS. 1683 00:42:14,098 --> 00:42:16,667 AND-AND SO I-- 1684 00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:20,371 AND AS VANESSA SAID, UM... 1685 00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,574 WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, 1686 00:42:23,574 --> 00:42:26,877 EXAMPLES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS 1687 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,045 IN LEADERSHIP ROLES 1688 00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:29,680 IF WE GOING TO BRING 1689 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,582 AFRICAN AMERICANS, UH, 1690 00:42:31,582 --> 00:42:34,385 INTO, UM, THE ORGANIZATION, 1691 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:35,653 YOU KNOW, TO HELP, 1692 00:42:35,653 --> 00:42:37,821 UH, WITH THAT DIVERSITY. 1693 00:42:37,821 --> 00:42:40,324 AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHY 1694 00:42:40,324 --> 00:42:41,125 IT'S IMPORTANT. 1695 00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:42,326 SO WE HAVE THOSE EXAMPLES 1696 00:42:42,326 --> 00:42:43,661 OUT THERE TO SAY, YES, 1697 00:42:43,661 --> 00:42:45,829 I TOO CAN, UH, ACHIEVE 1698 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:48,165 MY FULL POTENTIAL IF, UH-- 1699 00:42:48,165 --> 00:42:50,100 IF I JOIN NASA 1700 00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:51,602 OR IF I JOIN THIS ORGANIZATION. 1701 00:42:51,602 --> 00:42:53,470 AND THEN I WOULD JUST CLOSE 1702 00:42:53,470 --> 00:42:54,438 BY SAYIN' 1703 00:42:54,438 --> 00:42:56,507 IT'S NOT ABOUT RECRUITING, 1704 00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:59,076 IT'S ABOUT SELECTING. 1705 00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:01,178 >> AMEN TO THAT. 1706 00:43:01,178 --> 00:43:04,915 OKAY, UM, BRENDA. 1707 00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:07,184 >> WELL, AS THE ASSOCIATE 1708 00:43:07,184 --> 00:43:08,786 ADMINISTRATOR FOR DIVERSITY 1709 00:43:08,786 --> 00:43:10,721 AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY 1710 00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:13,791 AT NASA, FORMALLY, UM, 1711 00:43:13,791 --> 00:43:15,659 I WAS DEFINITELY A PROPONENT 1712 00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:17,661 OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, 1713 00:43:17,661 --> 00:43:19,029 AS WELL AS EQUITY. 1714 00:43:19,029 --> 00:43:21,065 UM, I-I THINK IT'S 1715 00:43:21,065 --> 00:43:23,334 THE CORNERSTONE OF HAVING 1716 00:43:23,334 --> 00:43:25,502 A GREAT ORGANIZATION. 1717 00:43:25,502 --> 00:43:27,671 UH, I THINK THAT IT IS 1718 00:43:27,671 --> 00:43:30,207 IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE 1719 00:43:30,207 --> 00:43:32,109 TO BRING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, 1720 00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:34,278 DIFFERENT SKILL SETS, UH, 1721 00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:35,813 GIVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS 1722 00:43:35,813 --> 00:43:37,281 TO WHAT WE DO. 1723 00:43:37,281 --> 00:43:40,551 I THINK NASA IS FAR BETTER, 1724 00:43:40,551 --> 00:43:42,820 UM, AS AN AGENCY 1725 00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:45,422 BECAUSE WE HAVE BECOME DIVERSE. 1726 00:43:45,422 --> 00:43:48,726 UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE OPENED UP 1727 00:43:48,726 --> 00:43:52,029 AND ALLOWED, UH, MINORITIES 1728 00:43:52,029 --> 00:43:54,631 AND WOMEN TO GROW AND TO MOVE 1729 00:43:54,631 --> 00:43:57,134 INTO HIGHER LEVEL POSITIONS. 1730 00:43:57,134 --> 00:43:59,803 I THINK IT HAS MADE NASA 1731 00:43:59,803 --> 00:44:02,473 A FAR BETTER ORGANIZATION. 1732 00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:04,141 UH, IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME 1733 00:44:04,141 --> 00:44:05,576 FOR US TO GET THERE, 1734 00:44:05,576 --> 00:44:07,711 BUT I THINK THAT, UM, 1735 00:44:07,711 --> 00:44:09,980 IF WE LOOK BACK AT OUR HISTORY, 1736 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:11,281 I THINK WE WILL SEE 1737 00:44:11,281 --> 00:44:13,684 THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION 1738 00:44:13,684 --> 00:44:14,885 TO MOVE FORWARD 1739 00:44:14,885 --> 00:44:17,221 BECAUSE WE HAVE EMBRACED 1740 00:44:17,221 --> 00:44:19,656 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. 1741 00:44:19,656 --> 00:44:21,191 >> YEAH, WELL SAID. 1742 00:44:21,191 --> 00:44:23,827 YEP. OKAY, UH, HAL. 1743 00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:24,962 WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY 1744 00:44:24,962 --> 00:44:26,230 IN CLOSING? 1745 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:27,264 >> I'M JUST PROUD TO BE 1746 00:44:27,264 --> 00:44:28,465 ASSOCIATED WITH NASA. 1747 00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:29,566 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ASSOCIATED 1748 00:44:29,566 --> 00:44:31,635 IN SOME WAYS WITH NASA 1749 00:44:31,635 --> 00:44:33,570 GOING BACK TO THE PROJECT RELAY, 1750 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:34,805 THE FIRST ORBITING 1751 00:44:34,805 --> 00:44:36,240 COMMUNICATIONS SATELLITE. 1752 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,474 I WAS AT STL. 1753 00:44:37,474 --> 00:44:38,442 WE BUILT THE FIRST 1754 00:44:38,442 --> 00:44:40,144 COMMUNICATIONS, UH, 1755 00:44:40,144 --> 00:44:41,578 DOWNLINK AND UPLINK FOR IT. 1756 00:44:41,578 --> 00:44:42,780 AND OF COURSE THAT LED 1757 00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:44,748 ONTO APOLLO 11 AND SO FORTH. 1758 00:44:44,748 --> 00:44:46,116 BUT I WANNA LEAVE US 1759 00:44:46,116 --> 00:44:47,451 AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE 1760 00:44:47,451 --> 00:44:48,952 THAT MAYBE ARE LISTENING 1761 00:44:48,952 --> 00:44:50,421 IS THIS LITTLE THOUGHT 1762 00:44:50,421 --> 00:44:51,622 I'M GONNA READ. 1763 00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:53,590 UH, ABOUT, "U.S. PREPARES 1764 00:44:53,590 --> 00:44:55,692 FOR OFF-WORLD FUTURE. 1765 00:44:55,692 --> 00:44:57,194 THE U.S. COMMERCIAL SPACE LAUNCH 1766 00:44:57,194 --> 00:44:58,862 COMPETITIVENESS ACT, 1767 00:44:58,862 --> 00:44:59,830 WHICH PRESIDENT OBAMA 1768 00:44:59,830 --> 00:45:00,564 SIGNED INTO LAW 1769 00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:03,000 ON NOVEMBER 25, 2015, 1770 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,202 GRANTING U.S. CITIZENS 1771 00:45:05,202 --> 00:45:07,271 THE RIGHTS TO RESOURCES 1772 00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:08,806 THEY OBTAIN FROM ASTEROIDS 1773 00:45:08,806 --> 00:45:10,908 OR OTHER BODIES BEYOND EARTH." 1774 00:45:10,908 --> 00:45:12,109 SO, GUYS, THERE'S 1775 00:45:12,109 --> 00:45:13,210 BUSINESS OUT THERE. 1776 00:45:13,210 --> 00:45:15,379 IF WE CAN DO IT, 1777 00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:17,448 YOU CAN, OKAY? 1778 00:45:17,448 --> 00:45:18,816 ALL RIGHT. 1779 00:45:18,816 --> 00:45:19,516 >> MM-KAY. 1780 00:45:19,516 --> 00:45:20,451 THANK YOU, HAL. 1781 00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:21,819 CLAYTON, YOU HAVE THE HONOR 1782 00:45:21,819 --> 00:45:22,586 OF WRAPPING UP 1783 00:45:22,586 --> 00:45:23,787 THIS ESTEEMED PANEL, 1784 00:45:23,787 --> 00:45:24,788 AND BEFORE WE CLOSE 1785 00:45:24,788 --> 00:45:25,823 AND CLAYTON CLOSE, 1786 00:45:25,823 --> 00:45:26,990 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU 1787 00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:27,791 TO EACH OF YOU. 1788 00:45:27,791 --> 00:45:28,559 I GREATLY APPRECIATE 1789 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:29,460 EVERYTHING. 1790 00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:31,028 AND CLAYTON? 1791 00:45:31,028 --> 00:45:32,229 >> THANK YOU, GLENN. 1792 00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:32,996 SO, A LITTLE BIT 1793 00:45:32,996 --> 00:45:34,031 ON WHAT HAL WAS SAYING. 1794 00:45:34,031 --> 00:45:36,266 SO, AT NASA, OUR MISSION 1795 00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:37,601 IS TO REACH FOR NEW HEIGHTS, 1796 00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:38,635 TO REVEAL THE UNKNOWN, 1797 00:45:38,635 --> 00:45:40,404 FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANKIND. 1798 00:45:40,404 --> 00:45:41,338 THERE'S A LOT OF WORK 1799 00:45:41,338 --> 00:45:42,639 THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE, 1800 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:44,241 AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT 1801 00:45:44,241 --> 00:45:45,075 WITH TEN OF ME 1802 00:45:45,075 --> 00:45:46,243 OR TEN OF ANYBODY. 1803 00:45:46,243 --> 00:45:47,444 YOU NEED DIVERSE THOUGHT, 1804 00:45:47,444 --> 00:45:48,445 YOU NEED NEW IDEAS, 1805 00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:49,446 AND YOU NEED-- 1806 00:45:49,446 --> 00:45:52,316 TO-TO-TO-TO ACHIEVE OUR MISSION, 1807 00:45:52,316 --> 00:45:53,884 WE HAVE TO FIND THAT UNITY. 1808 00:45:53,884 --> 00:45:55,786 AND TO ACHIEVE OUR MISSION, 1809 00:45:55,786 --> 00:45:57,387 OUR LEGACY IS NOT 1810 00:45:57,387 --> 00:45:58,589 WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, 1811 00:45:58,589 --> 00:46:00,157 IT'S WHAT'S FOLLOWING US. 1812 00:46:00,157 --> 00:46:00,991 SO I WILL TELL YOU, 1813 00:46:00,991 --> 00:46:02,126 I SPENT MY FIRST DAY 1814 00:46:02,126 --> 00:46:03,060 AS CENTER DIRECTOR 1815 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,061 WITH A CLASSROOM 1816 00:46:04,061 --> 00:46:05,062 OF FOUR-YEAR-OLDS 1817 00:46:05,062 --> 00:46:05,996 AND THREE-YEAR-OLDS. 1818 00:46:05,996 --> 00:46:07,264 AND I TALKED TO FOUR-YEAR-OLDS 1819 00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:08,499 ABOUT THE SOLAR SYSTEM 1820 00:46:08,499 --> 00:46:09,833 AND WE MADE ONE. 1821 00:46:09,833 --> 00:46:10,567 AND EACH OF 'EM 1822 00:46:10,567 --> 00:46:11,401 COULD TALK ABOUT IT. 1823 00:46:11,401 --> 00:46:12,603 I TALKED TO THE THREE-YEAR-OLDS 1824 00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:13,504 ABOUT GRAVITY, 1825 00:46:13,504 --> 00:46:15,939 AEROTHERMAL DYNAMICS, CODING, 1826 00:46:15,939 --> 00:46:17,674 AND THEN I ASKED 1827 00:46:17,674 --> 00:46:19,510 WHEN I DROPPED THE BALL, 1828 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:21,211 WHY DID THIS BALL FALL? 1829 00:46:21,211 --> 00:46:21,979 AND A THREE-YEAR-OLD 1830 00:46:21,979 --> 00:46:22,980 YOUNG LADY TOLD ME, 1831 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,148 "BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BALLOON." 1832 00:46:24,148 --> 00:46:24,815 AND SHE TOLD ME 1833 00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:26,216 WHY A BALLOON GOES UP. 1834 00:46:26,216 --> 00:46:28,152 THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA INSPIRE. 1835 00:46:28,152 --> 00:46:30,621 NOT ONLY NEED TO DELIVER TODAY, 1836 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:31,421 BUT IF WE'RE GONNA 1837 00:46:31,421 --> 00:46:32,589 TAKE ON THE CHALLENGES 1838 00:46:32,589 --> 00:46:34,057 NOT ONLY OF OUR NATION 1839 00:46:34,057 --> 00:46:35,292 BUT OF OUR PLANET, 1840 00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:37,427 WE NEED EVERY MIND WE CAN GET. 1841 00:46:37,427 --> 00:46:39,530 THERE'S NO TIME, NO ROOM 1842 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:41,265 TO PUT ANYBODY TO THE SIDE. 1843 00:46:41,265 --> 00:46:42,366 WE NEED TO PROVIDE 1844 00:46:42,366 --> 00:46:43,267 OPPORTUNITIES, 1845 00:46:43,267 --> 00:46:44,368 TO WOODROW'S POINT. 1846 00:46:44,368 --> 00:46:45,702 IT'S NOT JUST RECRUITING, 1847 00:46:45,702 --> 00:46:46,637 IT'S WHAT YOU DO 1848 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:47,571 WHEN YOU GET HERE. 1849 00:46:47,571 --> 00:46:48,939 EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL INCLUSIVE 1850 00:46:48,939 --> 00:46:49,840 AND PART OF IT. 1851 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,308 AND I WILL, UH, GRAB A QUOTE 1852 00:46:51,308 --> 00:46:52,409 THAT SOMEBODY SHARED FOR ME 1853 00:46:52,409 --> 00:46:53,343 FROM WOODROW. 1854 00:46:53,343 --> 00:46:55,312 UH, "WHERE YOU SIT AT THE TABLE 1855 00:46:55,312 --> 00:46:56,547 DOESN'T MAKE YOU A LEADER." 1856 00:46:56,547 --> 00:46:57,948 AND-AND WOODROW, 1857 00:46:57,948 --> 00:46:59,950 I INTENTIONALLY MOVE AROUND 1858 00:46:59,950 --> 00:47:00,817 BECAUSE SOMEBODY SHARED 1859 00:47:00,817 --> 00:47:01,952 THAT QUOTE WITH ME. 1860 00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,287 BECAUSE BEING A LEADER 1861 00:47:03,287 --> 00:47:04,421 IS TAKING LEADERSHIP 1862 00:47:04,421 --> 00:47:05,622 AND LEADING OTHERS 1863 00:47:05,622 --> 00:47:06,590 AND SERVING. 1864 00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:07,891 SO I'LL WRAP UP WITH THAT. 1865 00:47:07,891 --> 00:47:09,026 REACH FOR NEW HEIGHTS 1866 00:47:09,026 --> 00:47:09,993 TO REVEAL THE UNKNOWN 1867 00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:11,495 FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANKIND. 1868 00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:12,829 WE NEED EVERYBODY. 1869 00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:14,364 I MEAN EVERYBODY. 1870 00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:15,232 EVERY BRIGHT MIND 1871 00:47:15,232 --> 00:47:16,200 THAT'S WILLING. 1872 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,169 >> WOW, UM, IT WAS TRULY 1873 00:47:19,169 --> 00:47:21,171 MY HONOR TO SIT WITH EACH OF YOU 1874 00:47:21,171 --> 00:47:22,239 DISTINGUISHED PEOPLE. 1875 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,507 EVEN JUST SITTING HERE 1876 00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:24,308 THROUGH THIS HOUR, 1877 00:47:24,308 --> 00:47:25,242 I HAVE LEARNED A LOT 1878 00:47:25,242 --> 00:47:26,243 AND I GREATLY, 1879 00:47:26,243 --> 00:47:27,211 GREATLY APPRECIATE 1880 00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:28,045 YOU GUYS TAKING YOUR TIME 1881 00:47:28,045 --> 00:47:29,680 AND SHARING THIS, UM, 1882 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,581 WITH THE AUDIENCE 1883 00:47:30,581 --> 00:47:31,715 THAT WE HAVE TODAY. 1884 00:47:31,715 --> 00:47:32,516 AND WITH THAT, 1885 00:47:32,516 --> 00:47:33,684 I'LL SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 1886 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:34,551 AND I'LL CLOSE, 1887 00:47:34,551 --> 00:47:36,086 AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEY 1888 00:47:36,086 --> 00:47:37,588 TO-TO CLOSE US OUT. 1889 00:47:37,588 --> 00:47:38,388 AND I APPRECIATE 1890 00:47:38,388 --> 00:47:39,356 EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU 1891 00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:40,123 AND YOUR TIME. 1892 00:47:40,123 --> 00:47:40,891 AND YOU IN THE AUDIENCE 1893 00:47:40,891 --> 00:47:42,025 FOR TAKING THE TIME 1894 00:47:42,025 --> 00:47:42,859 TO LISTEN TO US. 1895 00:47:42,859 --> 00:47:43,860 THANK YOU. 1896 00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:47,931 >> WOW! 1897 00:47:47,931 --> 00:47:49,900 WHAT AN INCREDIBLE SESSION. 1898 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,169 IF YOU'RE ANYTHING LIKE ME, 1899 00:47:52,169 --> 00:47:54,304 I HAVE PAGES OF NOTES 1900 00:47:54,304 --> 00:47:55,405 AND SPECIAL MOMENTS 1901 00:47:55,405 --> 00:47:56,707 THAT I'LL BE SURE 1902 00:47:56,707 --> 00:47:58,475 TO TAKE AWAY FROM TODAY. 1903 00:47:58,475 --> 00:47:59,576 ONE OF THE MOST 1904 00:47:59,576 --> 00:48:00,844 IMPORTANT MESSAGES 1905 00:48:00,844 --> 00:48:02,179 THAT WE CAN RECEIVE 1906 00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:04,047 FROM THIS ESTEEMED PANEL 1907 00:48:04,047 --> 00:48:05,916 IS THAT LEADERSHIP REQUIRES 1908 00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:08,819 VISION, COMPASSION, 1909 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:11,054 TRUST, AND INNOVATION. 1910 00:48:11,054 --> 00:48:13,190 LEADERSHIP ALSO REQUIRES 1911 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:15,092 BRAVE INDIVIDUALS 1912 00:48:15,092 --> 00:48:16,460 THAT ARE PAVING THE WAY 1913 00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:18,028 FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. 1914 00:48:18,028 --> 00:48:19,496 AND WE ARE GRATEFUL 1915 00:48:19,496 --> 00:48:20,797 TO THESE BOLD LEADERS 1916 00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:22,099 THAT HAVE WORKED 1917 00:48:22,099 --> 00:48:24,234 AND ARE STILL WORKING TO ENSURE 1918 00:48:24,234 --> 00:48:26,503 THAT NASA FULLY REFLECTS 1919 00:48:26,503 --> 00:48:28,171 ITS CORE VALUES, 1920 00:48:28,171 --> 00:48:29,806 INCLUDING THE NEWEST 1921 00:48:29,806 --> 00:48:32,109 CORE VALUE OF INCLUSION. 1922 00:48:32,109 --> 00:48:35,112 IF IT'S TRUE THAT WE STAND 1923 00:48:35,112 --> 00:48:36,446 ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS 1924 00:48:36,446 --> 00:48:38,415 THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE US, 1925 00:48:38,415 --> 00:48:41,118 THEN CLEARLY WE STAND 1926 00:48:41,118 --> 00:48:42,052 ON THE SHOULDERS 1927 00:48:42,052 --> 00:48:44,021 OF AFRICAN AMERICAN LEADERS 1928 00:48:44,021 --> 00:48:45,922 WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY 1929 00:48:45,922 --> 00:48:47,791 FOR EQUITY AND FAIRNESS 1930 00:48:47,791 --> 00:48:49,760 DURING NASA'S HISTORY. 1931 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,695 WE EXTEND OUR GRATITUDE 1932 00:48:51,695 --> 00:48:53,664 TO OUR EXCELLENT MODERATOR, 1933 00:48:53,664 --> 00:48:55,032 GLENN DELGADO, 1934 00:48:55,032 --> 00:48:57,134 AND OUR EXCELLENT PANELISTS, 1935 00:48:57,134 --> 00:49:00,137 VANESSA, CLAYTON, WOODROW, 1936 00:49:00,137 --> 00:49:03,440 BRENDA, AND HAL FOR THEIR TIME. 1937 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,142 THIS SPECIAL PRESENTATION 1938 00:49:05,142 --> 00:49:06,977 WAS BROUGHT TO THE AGENCY 1939 00:49:06,977 --> 00:49:08,578 BY THE AFRICAN AMERICAN 1940 00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:10,047 EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUPS 1941 00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:12,082 AT LANGLEY, HEADQUARTERS, 1942 00:49:12,082 --> 00:49:13,317 AND JOHNSON. 1943 00:49:13,317 --> 00:49:14,351 AND THE NASA 1944 00:49:14,351 --> 00:49:15,986 HEADQUARTERS CHAPTER 1945 00:49:15,986 --> 00:49:18,255 OF BLACKS IN GOVERNMENT. 1946 00:49:18,255 --> 00:49:20,223 WE WANNA THANK THE AGENCY 1947 00:49:20,223 --> 00:49:21,591 OFFICE OF COMMUNICATION 1948 00:49:21,591 --> 00:49:23,193 FOR ENSURING THAT WE WERE 1949 00:49:23,193 --> 00:49:25,362 ALL ABLE TO HEAR AND SEE 1950 00:49:25,362 --> 00:49:27,297 THIS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 1951 00:49:27,297 --> 00:49:29,299 AND FINALLY, THANK YOU 1952 00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:31,201 TO THE EVENT PLANNING TEAM